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Cnasty wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:27 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:05 pm gotchu fam



TIL Hill leans left and Forbes leans right. Damn.

This is excellent and I have never seen it.

Well, it's only been posted numerous times here

Link me

And if you posted it i probably ignored it as with all your other posts.

Cnasty wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:14 pm I honestly don’t know where to turn to anymore for my news.

Every station is so slanted, every publication has an agenda.

I understand there won’t be a perfect option but damn it’s pointless and frustrating when I just want some simple facts.

I like to get the news from both sides. I've stated before that I absolutely despise Hannity, Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon, but I'll watch them on occasion to see the absolute right (Hannity) or left (Maddow or Lemon) point of view. Usually they are so far out there but you can see where some of the fanatics come from on both sides. My favorite opinion shows are The Five, Out Numbered and Cuomo. The Five and Out Numbered both have a representative from the left to give their point of view on a subject and Cuomo isn't afraid to have anyone on his show from the right. He does come across as a little bit of a conceited ass sometimes but I don't mind it too much as long as he gives his guest a chance to make their point, which usually does.

I did watch a lot of BBC America before the COVID shit started as they focused on politics from a world stand point and it was interesting to me.

Cnasty wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:36 pm Link me

You talking dirty to me?

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:27 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:55 pm Canada had 3 parties get nearly 20+% each

Just curious on the 3 parties that received ~>20% vote. Was this a mid term election, an incumbant in the seat and running again or an election like we had in 2016/2008/2000 where both major parties didn't have a person in the White House?

Nick can clarify but from a quick Google search Canada is like the UK they have a Parliament and that selects the "leader" of the government. The people don't cast a vote directly for a person to lead the government.

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

Not sure if Nextdoor.com is everywhere. But get on there and see how many people needs to be in everyones business.

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

People can rationalize any issue and make it seem intrusive on their own especially social ones.

Crowes wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:24 pm

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

People can rationalize any issue and make it seem intrusive on their own especially social ones.

Yes, people are dumb.

Crowes wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:53 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:27 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:55 pm Canada had 3 parties get nearly 20+% each

Just curious on the 3 parties that received ~>20% vote. Was this a mid term election, an incumbant in the seat and running again or an election like we had in 2016/2008/2000 where both major parties didn't have a person in the White House?

Nick can clarify but from a quick Google search Canada is like the UK they have a Parliament and that selects the "leader" of the government. The people don't cast a vote directly for a person to lead the government.

whattt

we voted in Justin Trudeau in this election to lead Canada.

Using the plurality voting system, Canadians vote for their local Member of Parliament (MP), who represents one specific constituency in the House of Commons. Generally, the leader of the party with the most seats in the House of Commons becomes the prime minister.

Whatever that means.



Granted, the citizens don't technically vote in the US President, that would be the electoral college.

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:48 pm

Crowes wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:53 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:27 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:55 pm Canada had 3 parties get nearly 20+% each

Just curious on the 3 parties that received ~>20% vote. Was this a mid term election, an incumbant in the seat and running again or an election like we had in 2016/2008/2000 where both major parties didn't have a person in the White House?

Nick can clarify but from a quick Google search Canada is like the UK they have a Parliament and that selects the "leader" of the government. The people don't cast a vote directly for a person to lead the government.

whattt

we voted in Justin Trudeau in this election to lead Canada.

"Using the plurality voting system, Canadians vote for their local Member of Parliament (MP), who represents one specific constituency in the House of Commons. Generally, the leader of the party with the most seats in the House of Commons becomes the prime minister"

Cnasty wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:14 pm I honestly don’t know where to turn to anymore for my news.

Every station is so slanted, every publication has an agenda.

I understand there won’t be a perfect option but damn it’s pointless and frustrating when I just want some simple facts.

We are our own research journalists. Read a few slanted 1 way, read a few slanted the other, try to pick out the facts and form an opinion. Kind of sad that we have to do this on every story.

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

This is pretty much where I'm at as well... with the caveat that if you F up, the penalties are harsh and the government (ie. taxpayers) aren't paying for your issues.

On the 2 party vs more thing... one way you can get to a 3 party system is if 1 side the core value coin holds a large majority of opinions (is there really a core value divide then?). So if the US gets to the point that it's like 70% liberal, a 2nd party could form out of that. But I don't think we see that in our lifetime (maybe our kids?). If the party splits without the a majority like that, it'll realign quickly when they split the vote.

Where does Project Veritas fall on that media graph?

Granted, anytime you interview someone in the dark with their voice distorted, it's kinda hard to believe lol. But just curious if this has any legs to it or if Project Veritas is some whackjob type site to disregard:

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:03 pm

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

nick wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pmhow about we let people do what they fucking want with their own lives and so long as its not like illegal or intruding on your own life, stay the fuck outta it..

This, that's it.

Not sure if Nextdoor.com is everywhere. But get on there and see how many people needs to be in everyones business.

Nextdoor is everywhere and it is amazing, all the way from dog poop arguments to covid it's endless entertainment.

shel311 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 12:00 pm Where does Project Veritas fall on that media graph?

Granted, anytime you interview someone in the dark with their voice distorted, it's kinda hard to believe lol. But just curious if this has any legs to it or if Project Veritas is some whackjob type site to disregard:

O'Keefe is considered way right.

As for the content... it's all over the place. Some stuff is dead on. Other stuff I've seen taken way out of context and misrepresented. Some stuff just little things that he blows out of porpotion.

As for the blurred face, probably is a real person and verifiable. When you watch a PV video, they are usually undercover, inside sources. O'Keefe has been sued multiple times, but frequently wins his cases. He's also had a lot of slander written about him, which he has a history of having it retracted with apology letters, which is pretty funny. But as I said earlier, this is something you just have to look at, take away what is (likely) fact and understand what the implications are, without the "extra shit" that he layers on.

CBS already posted a rebuttal, saying it didn't stage anything and it's blaming the clinic for doing it.

Leaves 3 possible answers...
1.) CBS is lying.
2.) CBS isn't lying, but did nothing to vet their news and just sucks at reporting.
3.) CBS isn't lying, but did know that it was staged and went with the story anyway.

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 1:31 pm CBS already posted a rebuttal, saying it didn't stage anything and it's blaming the clinic for doing it.

Leaves 3 possible answers...
1.) CBS is lying.
2.) CBS isn't lying, but did nothing to vet their news and just sucks at reporting.
3.) CBS isn't lying, but did know that it was staged and went with the story anyway.

At first I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. Then saw the title of the video that I didn't watch