COVID-19

[Whittness10]

Going off of my experience with it, you most likely would've had a fever for a few days and body aches in addition to what you're currently experiencing.

I never had a fever but had the body aches.

My sister in law got hit hard with it, but she is immune-compromised as she has lupus. She got her booster shot a week ago and then tested positive 4 days later. I called around and found a place we could get our monoclonal antibody infusion sooner than the scheduled day. I think she would have definitely had to go to the hospital had she not got that infusion.

My wife also has lupus, and ITP. She's prescribed the hydroxychloroquine for the lupus and has been taking that for years. That and the Ivermectin is why I think she got over it in 3 days.

[GeorgesGoons]

TIL that there have been more deaths this year of COVID than 2020. Why aren't we seeing it all over the news?!? That's right, (D)ifferent president

[dakshdar]

TIL that there have been more deaths this year of COVID than 2020. Why aren't we seeing it all over the news?!? That's right, (D)ifferent president

Why is this surprising? Just from some basics:

2020 had a massive lock down for several months. Business stayed closed for a long time or did extensive work from home. Schools were remote learning from Spring 2020 through Spring 2021.

2021 had massive opening, kids go back to school, states completely dropping all forms of restrictions that were in place to reduce spread. Some states this summer had higher death rates than the holiday 2020 time frame. And vaccination availability wasn't widespread until mid-to-late May (before that it was only certain professions or health compromised individuals).

Don't find it surprising at all, so hardly newsworthy.

[dakshdar]

If you want actual newsworthy - using death rates among the vaccinated population against death rates from the unvaccinated (but eligible for vaccination according to age) population, and only looking at June through September (vaccine was available May, eligible adults could be fully vaccinated in June), 90k deaths could have been avoided through vaccination. And, of that number, 49k were from September alone - so figure similar numbers per month moving into October/November and you're up to 200k preventable deaths this year.

Yes, stats are whatever you make them out to be, but pretty hard to ignore that the death rate among the unvaccinated is significantly higher the last 3-4 months. COVID was also the leading cause of death in those ages 35-54 for August and September of this year (don't know data is available more recent than that). What's the average age in our group here again?

[GeorgesGoons]

TIL that there have been more deaths this year of COVID than 2020. Why aren't we seeing it all over the news?!? That's right, (D)ifferent president

Why is this surprising? Just from some basics:

2020 had a massive lock down for several months. Business stayed closed for a long time or did extensive work from home. Schools were remote learning from Spring 2020 through Spring 2021.

2021 had massive opening, kids go back to school, states completely dropping all forms of restrictions that were in place to reduce spread. Some states this summer had higher death rates than the holiday 2020 time frame. And vaccination availability wasn't widespread until mid-to-late May (before that it was only certain professions or health compromised individuals).

Don't find it surprising at all, so hardly newsworthy.

It's surprising because it no longer fits the narrative the media wants to push now that they got their man in the oval office. Using COVID to enact emergency ways to vote. (I'm not a denier of the vote btw, Biden win, but I don't think people would have gone out to vote for him if they had to stand in line)

[GeorgesGoons]

If you want actual newsworthy - using death rates among the vaccinated population against death rates from the unvaccinated (but eligible for vaccination according to age) population, and only looking at June through September (vaccine was available May, eligible adults could be fully vaccinated in June), 90k deaths could have been avoided through vaccination. And, of that number, 49k were from September alone - so figure similar numbers per month moving into October/November and you're up to 200k preventable deaths this year.

Yes, stats are whatever you make them out to be, but pretty hard to ignore that the death rate among the unvaccinated is significantly higher the last 3-4 months. COVID was also the leading cause of death in those ages 35-54 for August and September of this year (don't know data is available more recent than that). What's the average age in our group here again?

Definitely in that age group.

Over 70% of eligible candidates to be vaccinated have already been fully vaccinated, this was before the <11 and under was given the okay.

Still a vast majority of all deaths are in the age groups above 65. And it isn't close. The push to vaccinate <11 year olds baffle me, last I checked the total deaths accounted for .00018% of all deaths.

I hear there are some amazing studies out of Sweden, Bahrain, Israel and a couple of other countries that the vaccine isn't preventing the spread of COVID....kinda goes against the medias push to vaccinate not just for yourself but for your neighbors as well. I need to read up on those.

[nick]

Israel - 3100 deaths out of 1.34 mil cases = 0.6%

USA - 777 000 deaths out of 44 mil cases = 1.62%

[nick]

Btw there is absolutely proof that vaccines lessen the spread of covid. They also help you survive if you get it.

But who knows with Omicron.

[GeorgesGoons]

Btw there is absolutely proof that vaccines lessen the spread of covid. They also help you survive if you get it.

But who knows with Omicron.

That's what I was getting at. There are studies, I believe peer reviewed, that shows it doesn't help limit the spread. I'll have to find them and hope I can get a dumbed down version of it so I can understand it.

No clue what omicron is

[GeorgesGoons]

I'm an idiot......

Forgot the new variant was Omicron

[ReignOnU]

Btw there is absolutely proof that vaccines lessen the spread of covid. They also help you survive if you get it.

But who knows with Omicron.

That's what I was getting at. There are studies, I believe peer reviewed, that shows it doesn't help limit the spread. I'll have to find them and hope I can get a dumbed down version of it so I can understand it.

No clue what omicron is

My gut reaction is that it has to be impossible for the vaccine not to limit the spread.
- Reduce the density = Limits intensity of particle spread
- Limits symptoms = Less coughing/particle spread
- Limits severity = Limits length of term, which ultimately limits length of time in contact

The only thing I could think of that could even remotely counter any of that is if the study can prove that you still get it at the same rate, are an active spreader for the same length of time and reduced symptom spread is offset by the fact that because you don't have symptoms, you're a more active member of society and in higher contact with others.

Find it very hard to believe it's possible.

[GeorgesGoons]

I'll try to find the reviews. It's 100% possible I didn't hear correctly about the studies.

[nick]

lets just hope that this is a weak strain and maybe through some luck the mutations will get weaker.. but what the fuck do i know

[GeorgesGoons]

lets just hope that this is a weak strain and maybe through some luck the mutations will get weaker.. but what the fuck do i know

We all die in the end, have fun and smoke a lot

I wanna know about the antibodies you get from having COVID. Do they last longer than the shots?!?

[dakshdar]

TIL that there have been more deaths this year of COVID than 2020. Why aren't we seeing it all over the news?!? That's right, (D)ifferent president

Why is this surprising? Just from some basics:

2020 had a massive lock down for several months. Business stayed closed for a long time or did extensive work from home. Schools were remote learning from Spring 2020 through Spring 2021.

2021 had massive opening, kids go back to school, states completely dropping all forms of restrictions that were in place to reduce spread. Some states this summer had higher death rates than the holiday 2020 time frame. And vaccination availability wasn't widespread until mid-to-late May (before that it was only certain professions or health compromised individuals).

Don't find it surprising at all, so hardly newsworthy.

It's surprising because it no longer fits the narrative the media wants to push now that they got their man in the oval office. Using COVID to enact emergency ways to vote. (I'm not a denier of the vote btw, Biden win, but I don't think people would have gone out to vote for him if they had to stand in line)

The concept that voting should require you to go out and stand in line makes no sense in 2021.

[Whittness10]

lets just hope that this is a weak strain and maybe through some luck the mutations will get weaker.. but what the fuck do i know

We all die in the end, have fun and smoke a lot

I wanna know about the antibodies you get from having COVID. Do they last longer than the shots?!?

I would love to see some actual data on this. My wife just had an antibody test done and it was around 90 I think. She knows someone that got back her test with over 300. I'm not sure what the average is. I'm going to go get my antibody test this week to see what number I get.

[GeorgesGoons]

Did you two get COVID? How long ago? This antibody test done at your doctor's or is it something you can do over the counter and send in?

[Whittness10]

Yes we both had it, second week of August. She just scheduled an appointment at LabCorp. It's like a small outpatient lab that'll just draw the blood and you'll have results back in a couple days. $30 I think she said it was.

[Wasted Memory]

Go donate blood. They'll do the antibody test for you if you ask. Now it's free.

[ReignOnU]

TIL that there have been more deaths this year of COVID than 2020. Why aren't we seeing it all over the news?!? That's right, (D)ifferent president

Why is this surprising? Just from some basics:

2020 had a massive lock down for several months. Business stayed closed for a long time or did extensive work from home. Schools were remote learning from Spring 2020 through Spring 2021.

2021 had massive opening, kids go back to school, states completely dropping all forms of restrictions that were in place to reduce spread. Some states this summer had higher death rates than the holiday 2020 time frame. And vaccination availability wasn't widespread until mid-to-late May (before that it was only certain professions or health compromised individuals).

Don't find it surprising at all, so hardly newsworthy.

It's surprising because it no longer fits the narrative the media wants to push now that they got their man in the oval office. Using COVID to enact emergency ways to vote. (I'm not a denier of the vote btw, Biden win, but I don't think people would have gone out to vote for him if they had to stand in line)

The concept that voting should require you to go out and stand in line makes no sense in 2021.

Imagine if you just had to go to a site, log in and vote in the same place that you file taxes, have birth/citizenship records and you could check the accuracy of your voting at anytime? But yet, here we are.