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Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:42 pm
by nick
the scary part in the US is this encryption bill theyre trying to pass during this that essentially fucks every American
https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020 ... atch-group
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:44 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:39 pm
Dems and Republicans can't decide over a stimulus plans to send those checks to Americans, and none of it has to do with the checks. They're fighting over the items that have nothing to do with COVID that each side is trying to place in the bills to get these things they want passed.
And yet, the overwhelming majority of Americans(and posters in here) are going to go out in November and vote for a Democrat or Republican, essentially supporting this behavior.
There would have to be a serious movement to get something other than a D or R in the office. I just don't see that happening in our lifetime. I'd just love to see a term limit on both the house and senate to get new innovative ideas in there (at least I would hope that would happen over time).
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:45 pm
by shel311
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:44 pm
I just don't see that happening in our lifetime
Because everyone has your mindset.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:47 pm
by GeorgesGoons
I'd love to know more on why they are trying to get this slid in there. And it's bipartisan
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:48 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:45 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:44 pm
I just don't see that happening in our lifetime
Because everyone has your mindset.
Or everyone doesn't want to potentially waste their vote. That is why I said it would have to be a huge movement to get most on board
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:49 pm
by shel311
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:48 pm
Or everyone doesn't want to potentially waste their vote.
What do you mean by "or"? That's the exact mindset I was talking about.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:23 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:49 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:48 pm
Or everyone doesn't want to potentially waste their vote.
What do you mean by "or"? That's the exact mindset I was talking about.
My "or" was a retort to your argument. It is a wasted vote without a huge movement. One party will get their votes taken away from them for the 3rd party. This year it may be democrats, in 4 years it may be republicans. And neither voting block wants to lose so they will never vote 3rd party
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:01 pm
by ReignOnU
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-call-c ... 53420.html
Only read about a paragraph or so... but I'll just assume that Adam Schiff is highly involved and already has some anonymous sources.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:18 pm
by Cnasty
While I agree it should be reviewed regardless of it is was a perfect response or the worst, but right now doesnt seem like the best time to allocate resources to that.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:29 pm
by shel311
Plus, it's not even over so it's pointless to start a review now, just wait til it's over.
I do find it odd that there's legislation needed to conduct a review of the response though. That should be pretty standard.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:16 pm
by cougnix
So are they going to postpone the election from COVID?
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:40 pm
by GeorgesGoons
cougnix wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:16 pm
So are they going to postpone the election from COVID?
Won't matter, the same guy will be president in February or June of next year.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pm
by GeorgesGoons
Cnasty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:18 pm
While I agree it should be reviewed regardless of it is was a perfect response or the worst, but right now doesnt seem like the best time to allocate resources to that.
"We will need to delay the work of the commission until the crisis has abated to ensure that it does not interfere with the agencies that are leading the response. But that should not prevent us from beginning to identify where we got it wrong and how we can be prepared for the next pandemic," Schiff told the Post.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm
by shel311
So he says we NEED to delay until the crisis is abated, but that need should not prevent us from starting before the crisis is abated?
Umm...what?
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:55 pm
by Cnasty
Right, thanks for clarifying!
He's the same dude who posted the OOTP manual.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:02 pm
by GeorgesGoons
Cnasty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:55 pm
Right, thanks for clarifying!
He's the same dude who posted the OOTP manual.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:26 pm
by ReignOnU
Sounds about right... on both accounts.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:28 am
by Cnasty
Bye Bye Bernie.
Joe vs Trump
Welcome to another 4 years of Trump my friends though I dont think it mattered who came from the left at this point.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:30 am
by shel311
Pretty crazy that one side has Trump going as a likely 2 term President...and the other side is miraculously in even worse shape than the side Trump is on
Re: 2016 Presidential Election
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:33 am
by Cnasty
Just ugly state of leaders right now in this country.
We need some blue potential prospects coming up through the ranks.
The political die hards here may know some names from both parties or independents showing growth.