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shel311 wrote:

Cnasty wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote: the hatred for cyborg happened after his career. during his career it was mostly curiosity and confusion.

Team Dave and Team Shel don't seem to be on the same page.

Sounds like I figured this out in 2012 the moment we realized Thomas was in the league, and you guys just took 3-5 years to catch up.

Nick made the first post about him actually.

unrelated, but I def. wonder if you could take a mediocre GM like Shel and place him with his current OOTP knowledge back in like 2020 season or early on if he would go on a run of domination against a bunch of newbies or he'd be the same.

DRiccio21 wrote:who messed with him? trendon or bear? it also is worth noting that bear got rid of him after a few years of regression in his late 20's. bear doesn't exactly have the rep for a guy who would have taken the foot off the throat if he knowingly had the trump card.

Both.

Trendon accidentally edited him while trying to force him back to college or something like that.

Bear edited the backend ratings. That's the shady part.

I think he got rid of him to try and throw people off his trail. But that's just me. "I totally wouldn't trade him if I knew how good he was, now would I!?" Kind of thing.

DRiccio21 wrote:who messed with him? trendon or bear? it also is worth noting that bear got rid of him after a few years of regression in his late 20's. bear doesn't exactly have the rep for a guy who would have taken the foot off the throat if he knowingly had the trump card.

im still in the "randomly happened" camp.

Cnasty wrote:

shel311 wrote:

Cnasty wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote: the hatred for cyborg happened after his career. during his career it was mostly curiosity and confusion.

Team Dave and Team Shel don't seem to be on the same page.

Sounds like I figured this out in 2012 the moment we realized Thomas was in the league, and you guys just took 3-5 years to catch up.

Nick made the first post about him actually.

bwaaaa

Cnasty wrote:

shel311 wrote:

Cnasty wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote: the hatred for cyborg happened after his career. during his career it was mostly curiosity and confusion.

Team Dave and Team Shel don't seem to be on the same page.

Sounds like I figured this out in 2012 the moment we realized Thomas was in the league, and you guys just took 3-5 years to catch up.

Nick made the first post about him actually.

So you were 3-5 years behind nick and I.

Better? Seems like not better.

No just correcting you.

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote:

nick wrote:the reason Thomas wasnt retired was because when Wu was retired, the entire league data file got fucked up so no one wanted that to happen again

also "mmm danone" is stuck in my head. so

this issue was discussed and i recall saying i would just release him and we could leave him in free agency which would have accomplished the same thing

Good point by nick. Forgot that.

And there were a lot of CPU teams then. One of those probably would have signed him. I think I'm starting to see why he got to keep playing though

it was as simple as 'hey reign, should i release this guy or should we retire him' and getting a no reply.

the discussion did go public (or in the admin) once because i do remember trendon or someone saying we can never retire a guy mid career or it will mess shit up. then we got into the free agent thing. then people ultimately said we should let him continue playing.

Seeitsaveit13 wrote: I think he got rid of him to try and throw people off his trail. But that's just me. "I totally wouldn't trade him if I knew how good he was, now would I!?" Kind of thing.

lolololololololol

you remember bear right?

he would have stole your wallet and then used the info in it to blackmail if it helped him win.

Cnasty wrote:No just correcting you.

Correcting what?

"you guys" are you, AJ, and seeit. I didn't say I was first to the party. I said I saw it back in 2012, and you 3 took years, apparently, to get on board. Not sure what you think was corrected.

shel311 wrote: Sounds like I figured this out in 2012 the moment we realized Thomas was in the league

Yea, this doesn't sound like you were saying you were the first at all.

If you weren't then yea, I am mistaken.

Poorly written, I'll concede.

But Pont stands, what the hell took you guys so long!!!

Cnasty wrote:My biggest piece for mentioning it as we have had some turnover lately and i honestly think they should know some of the history.

I don't think I've smeared him so much as provided the facts we all know so they can make an informed decision.

Thats all.

When's the wiki coming???

I was first. and second cause i wrote the same msg twice, but thats not the pont.

nick wrote:I was first. and second cause i wrote the same msg twice, but thats not the pont.

This is good reading.

http://onlinedynasty.net/forum/viewtopi ... as#p416378

DRiccio21 wrote:

Seeitsaveit13 wrote: I think he got rid of him to try and throw people off his trail. But that's just me. "I totally wouldn't trade him if I knew how good he was, now would I!?" Kind of thing.

lolololololololol

you remember bear right?

he would have stole your wallet and then used the info in it to blackmail if it helped him win.

Yes, but he also would have played dumb and said that he didn't steal the wallet, and offer to help figure out who did, after offering an alibi for how he couldn't have possibly stolen the wallet

Seeitsaveit13 wrote: Yes, but he also would have played dumb and said that he didn't steal the wallet, and offer to help figure out who did, after offering an alibi for how he couldn't have possibly stolen the wallet

All true, but he would have done all that while still holding on to the wallet.

Man, 2010-2025 was like the wild wild west of NDL OOTP.

damn thats a good read. FUckin Hays man fuck AJ

shel311 wrote:

nick wrote:I was first. and second cause i wrote the same msg twice, but thats not the pont.

This is good reading.

http://onlinedynasty.net/forum/viewtopi ... as#p416378

Bear's first 4 or 5 posts are all justifications of how he couldn't have done it etc, without anyone actually calling him out, just people saying the guy seemed fishy.

Seems about right