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OracleHCR wrote:I guess you've missed where he is a racist against all immigration. You probably believed that one though. How about where none of the refugees should be allowed in the US? I'm guessing you believed that one too.
I'm not a fan of Trump. You obviously don't believe in media bias. It is there and if you did homework rather than believing everything you read on Facebook, you'd know what I'm talking about.

Enlightenment us all then instead of using the tired right rhetoric of media bad, Everyone but me is sheep and cant see the truth. Explain your position how is he not using racist and anti-immigration rhetoric? If you can assume everyone but you gets their news from facebook is safe to assume you get a majority of your opinions from Fox news?

OracleHCR wrote:I guess you've missed where he is a racist against all immigration. You probably believed that one though. How about where none of the refugees should be allowed in the US? I'm guessing you believed that one too.
I'm not a fan of Trump. You obviously don't believe in media bias. It is there and if you did homework rather than believing everything you read on Facebook, you'd know what I'm talking about.

Like I said. The rhetoric that you spew about him being a racist is adding fuel to the Trump train. I guess since I like some of his thoughts I am a racist too right

Here lies the problem. You assume that I get my facts from facebook. All I have here is the internet. I'm am constantly on the big 3 news networks, NYTimes, Washington post, NPR, Real clear politics to form an educated decision.

I never said I was a Trump supporter. But to downplay the movement he has going for him is just plain ignorance. There is a reason people are energized by this election. Government had forgotten who they work for over the past 20+ years.

As far as the refugees. Yes I am against them coming here until they are properly veted, exactly what Trump said. I have a different view of these people because I see what they do on a daily basis. To think that they wouldn't try to pose as refugees is a mistake and could be extremely costly at that.

Yes we have an illegal alien problem in this country. We need to worry about our own before worrying about people that do not belong here.

Thanks for proving my point Crowes. Baa baa. He isn't against immigration. He's against illegal immigration. Notice the one word you and your closest fiends always leave out. He isn't against any Syrian refugees coming to the US. He thinks they should be vetted. You are insane if you don't agree with that.
I don't watch Fox News. You made that same accusation last election and I replied with the same answer. This is right after you called a group "Tea Baggers" without knowing anything about what they stand for.
What bothers me is that you actually mold the minds of our youth with your uninformed bs.

I wasn't talking to you George. We're in agreement.

Crowes wrote:

OracleHCR wrote:I guess you've missed where he is a racist against all immigration. You probably believed that one though. How about where none of the refugees should be allowed in the US? I'm guessing you believed that one too.
I'm not a fan of Trump. You obviously don't believe in media bias. It is there and if you did homework rather than believing everything you read on Facebook, you'd know what I'm talking about.

Enlightenment us all then instead of using the tired right rhetoric of media bad, Everyone but me is sheep and cant see the truth. Explain your position how is he not using racist and anti-immigration rhetoric? If you can assume everyone but you gets their news from facebook is safe to assume you get a majority of your opinions from Fox news?

And you from MSNBC?

The same goes for your left rhetoric. But we all wouldn't know. Guess we soul go out and eat some grass, who's with me sheeple?

OracleHCR wrote:I wasn't talking to you George

I saw the green text for the username and thought it was Crowes

i don't think Trump is a racist and i don't think Trump is a bad dude. i think Trump is a master manipulator and he's playing to the crowd that he knows is coming out to support him.

for me, his message is divisive and combative. even the tone he uses when someone protesting is offputing to me. i just think it's a horrible representation of a leader

I agree

DRiccio21 wrote:i don't think Trump is a racist and i don't think Trump is a bad dude. i think Trump is a master manipulator and he's playing to the crowd that he knows is coming out to support him.

for me, his message is divisive and combative. even the tone he uses when someone protesting is offputing to me. i just think it's a horrible representation of a leader

One million percent agree. Not all republicans are racist but all racist are republican. I don't think for one second in Trump's personal life he is a racist or lives by what he spews. He is pandering to what once was a small sect of the party but now is taking over the party.

OracleHCR wrote:Thanks for proving my point Crowes. Baa baa. He isn't against immigration. He's against illegal immigration. Notice the one word you and your closest fiends always leave out. He isn't against any Syrian refugees coming to the US. He thinks they should be vetted. You are insane if you don't agree with that.
I don't watch Fox News. You made that same accusation last election and I replied with the same answer. This is right after you called a group "Tea Baggers" without knowing anything about what they stand for.
What bothers me is that you actually mold the minds of our youth with your uninformed bs.

I was just repeating what you accused me of and asking you to provide examples so I dont see how I made your point as I never said he was a racist or anti immigrant. As I said above I dont personally think Trumps really believes anything he spews. He knows his audience and knows they want a black and white answer to things that are not black and white so that is what he provides them.

GeorgesGoons wrote:As far as the refugees. Yes I am against them coming here until they are properly veted, exactly what Trump said. I have a different view of these people because I see what they do on a daily basis. To think that they wouldn't try to pose as refugees is a mistake and could be extremely costly at that.

But to satisfy you and the people who say that we need to "properly vet" them we could never let anyone in ever. It will never be 100% without risk, ever. To think a terrorist would waste 2 or 3 years trying to sneak in with refugees just doesn't pass the common sense test. Could some do that yes but it is highly improbable. Should we just let them in here with no vetting no but to say none should allowed in due to a minuscule chance one might be a terrorist is absurd. It would be exponentially easier to sneak into Europe and get a passport and just fly over here why would they waste time jumping through all the hoops that refugees have to go through.

not sure if that all racists are republicans thing is a joke or a political cliche i'm unaware of so i'll just pretend you were kidding.

but besides that, anyone see the video of the dude trying to attack trump today.

DRiccio21 wrote:but besides that, anyone see the video of the dude trying to attack trump today.

Valiant effort, slow reactions by a couple of the security guys.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-t ... d=37601079

DRiccio21 wrote:not sure if that all racists are republicans thing is a joke or a political cliche i'm unaware of so i'll just pretend you were kidding.

but besides that, anyone see the video of the dude trying to attack trump today.

It's something I've heard before and from living in Tennessee all my life I've experienced nothing that would dissuade me from thinking that it's not to far off from the truth.

This describes what I see from the republican party. The whole house example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opmtg0tM5lY

Crowes wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote:not sure if that all racists are republicans thing is a joke or a political cliche i'm unaware of so i'll just pretend you were kidding.

but besides that, anyone see the video of the dude trying to attack trump today.

It's something I've heard before and from living in Tennessee all my life I've experienced nothing that would dissuade me from thinking that it's not to far off from the truth.

This describes what I see from the republican party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opmtg0tM5lY

you don't think that's a wee bit ignorant?

DRiccio21 wrote:

Crowes wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote:not sure if that all racists are republicans thing is a joke or a political cliche i'm unaware of so i'll just pretend you were kidding.

but besides that, anyone see the video of the dude trying to attack trump today.

It's something I've heard before and from living in Tennessee all my life I've experienced nothing that would dissuade me from thinking that it's not to far off from the truth.

This describes what I see from the republican party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opmtg0tM5lY

you don't think that's a wee bit ignorant?

If I was trying to say all republicans are racist, yes that would be ignorant.

i know what you said and i'm having a hard time believing you're serious.

there are plenty of racist democrats, i mean even if you want to go on a simple route with a guy like Spike Lee. you could go back to Lyndon Johnson who said 'n*gger' every other word and basically said 'he'd have n*ggers voting democrat for the next 100 years' or some shit.

i mean i don't even know why i am debating this but its an absurd comment, just want to clear that up.

there are scores and scores of racist democrats. just like there are scores and scores of backwards racist republicans. there is a big world outside your biased narrative you're creating based on your experiences. lets be fair to all the ignorant racists out there.

DRiccio21 wrote: there is a big world outside your biased narrative you're creating based on your experiences. lets be fair to all the ignorant racists out there.

THIS! This is great. How do we get this across? I can't tell you how many arguments i've had with people around here that think just because they know someone who knows someone that sells foodstamps or sit and home and lives off welfare that welfare is the root of all evil. Or that they saw a Hispanic with a EBT card so its the damn illegals destroying out country.

You made my point by saying he is using racist anti immigration rhetoric. I can guarantee that you have never heard one of his speeches if you believe that. You've read it on huff post or heard it on msnbc but you've never heard him say it unless it was edited or taken out of context.
And seriously. WTF? All racists are republican? That is the stupidest thing I have ever read. Racism is racism. It doesn't matter if you are black, white, red or yellow. Lines are not drawn by party lines. That last statement you made can be construed as racist as hell. Why would you assume the person sitting at home or selling food stamps is white or black? I looks to me as if you are the one with preconceptions.

Canada allowed 25 000 refugees and no issues.

America.. the land of the free.. if you're old, rich and white. Remember when those refugees from the UK sailed over to that new land and called it the USA?