College Basektball 2015

[Cnasty]

They are deep and Miami is officially a basketball school.

[Seeitsaveit13]

UNC...

[ReignOnU]

While losing to Northern Iowa sounds horrible... NI was actually a 5 seed last year. Could be a lot worse.

[Seeitsaveit13]

True. I was surprised to see that UNC travelled to UNI

[Cnasty]

Canes take down 2 ranked teams in the tourney. Looking good.

[DRiccio21]

Canes take down 2 ranked teams in the tourney. Looking good.

they are scoring like 90 ppg

and somehow kenpom says they are playing a really slow pace. something not right there.

[packsyd2284]

Saw Simmons play last night. I think he only had 6 points but holy shit that guy is good just watching him play both sides of the floor.

[Cnasty]

Canes take down 2 ranked teams in the tourney. Looking good.

they are scoring like 90 ppg

and somehow kenpom says they are playing a really slow pace. something not right there.

Oops

[DRiccio21]

Bo Ryan retires

one of my favorite coaches of all time.

my only beefs with him are how he handled himself following the loss last year in the finals and then how he's retiring (unless there is more to it than i know).

Bo is one of the few guys who started and built himself from the bottom by winning. not by some connections of being an assistant or a former player. he was just an amazing coach who understood the game in a way a tiny fraction of people did 30 years ago. He was doing PPP analysis 30 years ago which is one of the common sabr things now. he understood pace of play, efficiency, value of possession, etc way better than most and it allowed him to win consistently.

i watched a couple of Badgers games this year and i have a ton of really big Badger fan friends and i told them all that this was the weirdest Badgers team i could remember, they were running isolation plays and not really moving the ball all that much. It's almost as if he wasn't coaching this year. Going to be interesting to see if they can find a quality disciple to take over the job full time or figure out a way to get Bennett over there, which i'm sure is highly unlikely given his success

[packsyd2284]

Bo Ryan retires

one of my favorite coaches of all time.

my only beefs with him are how he handled himself following the loss last year in the finals and then how he's retiring (unless there is more to it than i know).

Bo is one of the few guys who started and built himself from the bottom by winning. not by some connections of being an assistant or a former player. he was just an amazing coach who understood the game in a way a tiny fraction of people did 30 years ago. He was doing PPP analysis 30 years ago which is one of the common sabr things now. he understood pace of play, efficiency, value of possession, etc way better than most and it allowed him to win consistently.

i watched a couple of Badgers games this year and i have a ton of really big Badger fan friends and i told them all that this was the weirdest Badgers team i could remember, they were running isolation plays and not really moving the ball all that much. It's almost as if he wasn't coaching this year. Going to be interesting to see if they can find a quality disciple to take over the job full time or figure out a way to get Bennett over there, which i'm sure is highly unlikely given his success

Love the guy and it's gotta be hard to interview directly after a tough loss.

I do feel like he just quit ON his team because things were getting hard this year much like Spurrier did which is BS.

[nick]

probably has health conditions he doesnt want the public to know. He isn't young

[GeorgesGoons]

probably has health conditions he doesnt want the public to know. He isn't young

That was my first thought.

Then I read this comment by him:

“Everybody knows, it’s no secret. Every head coach would like their top assistant to be the head coach,” Ryan said. “I wanted to give Coach Gard plenty of time to get the guys ready and to get them into the position where, as a head coach, he has a chance, as every former head coach for their top assistant says, ‘to take a run at the job’. That’s the way this business is, and we accept it.”

And then saw that Ollie was handed the UCONN job the same way, kind of forcing the hand of the school to give their head assistant a chance. Maybe this was the reason?!?

[jsence2]

If it were another coach, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not Bo Ryan

He threw a player under the bus for wanting to transfer, denied him the ability to transfer to almost any school he wanted to go to. He accused him on national radio on giving up on the team, etc. Yet, it's ok for him to bail on his team because they're 7-5?

If this team were 12-0, he wouldn't be giving Coach Gard time to "take a run at the job". If they were 10-2, he wouldn't be doing it. But at 7-5, he's just going to bail.

This is no better than Spurrier. The fact is, Ryan sees that his team is struggling, and that he has no commitments for next year, and so he quit.

[packsyd2284]

If it were another coach, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not Bo Ryan

He threw a player under the bus for wanting to transfer, denied him the ability to transfer to almost any school he wanted to go to. He accused him on national radio on giving up on the team, etc. Yet, it's ok for him to bail on his team because they're 7-5?

If this team were 12-0, he wouldn't be giving Coach Gard time to "take a run at the job". If they were 10-2, he wouldn't be doing it. But at 7-5, he's just going to bail.

This is no better than Spurrier. The fact is, Ryan sees that his team is struggling, and that he has no commitments for next year, and so he quit.

Bingo.

[DRWebs]

If he quit now because his heart wasn't into it and didn't want the players to endure a season of a coach not essentially coaching, is that still as bad? Maybe the new coach brings some life into the season and the potential recruits get to see the future of the program... Don't know enough about Bo or the program just throwing out different thoughts

[DRiccio21]

this wasn't shocking and was mostly expected.

it was always a 'when he feels like it type of situation'.

[jsence2]

If he quit now because his heart wasn't into it and didn't want the players to endure a season of a coach not essentially coaching, is that still as bad? Maybe the new coach brings some life into the season and the potential recruits get to see the future of the program... Don't know enough about Bo or the program just throwing out different thoughts

Because his heart wasn't into it at 7-5, but it would be at 10-2. It's still quitting on a group of young men who you tell every day that they can't quit, and then blast them as quitters publicly if they request a transfer in the middle of the season.

[The_Niddler]

jsence, are you there in the locker room or at practices?
You have no fucking clue what is going on with the coach and his team.
He may have had conversations with each and every player explaining that he wants to do what is best for the organization and if that means stepping aside and allowing a younger coach to breath new life into the program, then it is what it is.

I am not saying that is what it is, I have no idea, but neither do you.

Everyone is so god damn judgemental these days.
Last I checked, this is a free country and he didn't have to call up jsence and ask for permission to step aside as a head coach.

[DRiccio21]

not to mention, what he did wasn't a shocker inside the organization, he's been talking about stepping down since the offseason

[DRWebs]

not to mention, what he did wasn't a shocker inside the organization, he's been talking about stepping down since the offseason

Do you think it could have become a distraction for the players or are they just too young in college to care about that kind of thing?