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I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:Hell yes, TY Kent Meyers for retiring. Saves me $13m this year. :D
Fair warning... I'll be MUCH less forgiving with DFAs in the future.
I don't understand this.
Putting guys on Waivers that are taking a roster spot that you can't get rid of, they refuse to be demoted so you continually Waive them and let them sit on DFA until you have to pick them up and then do it all over again.
I got that part, but what is the MUCH less forgiving part. How do you take advantage of it. Mainly I want to make sure I am not doing something that gets looked down upon.
If the same guy keeps showing up in the waiver pool without being place on a team, he will just release them and you'll take the salary hit.
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cougnix wrote:If the same guy keeps showing up in the waiver pool without being place on a team, he will just release them and you'll take the salary hit.
Right.

To expand a bit, say you have a guy who has 2 years/$20mil remaining. You waive/DFA him, he's off your roster. But no one claims him, he clears waivers. At that point, he shows back up on your DFA list, and you need to do something with him(demote him to the minors or if he refuses demotion, release him).

The issue is when Reign attempts to run the sim, every team who has a guy stuck in DFA basically holds up the sim, and Reign has to manually decide what to do with those guys.

I'm assuming less forgiving means, he'll take the easy option and just release the player, thus giving you an immediate $20mil hit.
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It's relative because, I believe, Meyers spent nearly half the season the way Reign described: limbo.
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dakshdar wrote:It's relative because, I believe, Meyers spent nearly half the season the way Reign described: limbo.
I'm confused, what do you mean by limbo?

I'm under the impression if they're in DFA, Reign can't run the sim so he has to put them somewhere.
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A few points...
- He was tossed on waivers numerous times, which is just gaming the system and lame, even if I never have to make the adjustment.
- On many occasions, his DFA time ran out and I had to make a change to avoid the team eating the contract.

Going forward, you'll basically get 1 shot where if the player refuses to be demoted and I can get him back on your normal roster, I will... otherwise, consider them released. Waivers are specifically set to 14 days so that you have the player cleared on the 2nd sim and you can determine their future.
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Player is waived and sits on DFA. after his time is up he has to be put somewhere, if he is refusing option then reign has to make room on your major league squad (which likely won't have a spot). Obviously, finding a guy to move down takes effort and time. Guys will continually do it with cancer contract players... wastes a lot of time.
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Thanks for the clarification. I hope I haven't done that unknowingly.
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When does everyone get to vote for Wayne Washington as the AL MVP?
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It definitely wastes a lot of time.

There are a few different situations and resolutions.

The situations:
- A coach DFAs a player, but doesn't waive him. The next sim he waives him. The sim after that, his DFA time is up, but he hasn't cleared waivers.
- A coach makes a trade, doesn't export or leaves a guy as DFA and his time simply expires.
- A coach DFAs and waives a player, but just leaves him there because he refuses to be demoted, which sticks me with dealing with it to advance the sim.

The resolutions:
- A lot of situations, such as the coach not exporting, are quickly resolved by throwing the player in AAA.
- If they haven't cleared waivers or refuse, it gets messy, because I can't put them in the minors.
- I'll then check to see if a player was injured during the sim, if so, I can toss them on the DL and put the DFA on the active.
- I'll look at the # of pitchers and batters to try to determine where I may be able to find someone to demote/DFA.
- I'll look to find players that have options and aren't in the current lineup/rotation.
- I'll check to see if their option has already been used.

In cases over $2m or multi-year deals, I'll usually do my best to avoid cutting them. For those under, if I don't see a quick solution, they get released.

In the case of Myers, I would guess that I saw him 5-6 times last season. It's partially my fault, because I should have directly contacted the coach after the 2nd time and put a stop to it. Now the issue is public (well, many knew anyway) and my future direction concerning it has been stated.
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the 2-3ish weeks off (cause of power) has caused some rust. gonna take a couple days to get back into this. Thankfully I got #1 pick to make me content for the year.
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You dont need to use COACH, It was me..

But I do also know, I never slowed down a sim, Cause i actually apy attention to my DFA's weekly. And if it was that big a deal then yea you should have come and said stop doing it and he would have just ate up one of my 25 man spots, Thus i had to roll with 24 players all season regardless, to make room for this move over and over, So really I dont see the big issue here.

Everyone ran a 25 man roster while i had a 24 man until the roster expanded and he was back up there. ANd yea I wasnt about to eat $34 m last season, Was hoping to get him to retire and he did. :D

Again there was NO RULES against this and it really could happen in RL, Who is to say that the same player cant/wouldnt be waive and designated numerous times in a season ?


Also this cant be worse then someone purposely making a contract to someone which we all knew was crap, But it still went on and continues to.

Know I could see if i just left him there for Reign to handle over and over but that wasnt the case, Either way if it was that big a deal then I guess he should have said something. Still rolled with 24 players all season. 1 less then anyone else. For another player who just fell from mid 40's to a 20 in 1 season, Seems to happen with alot of my players for no apparent reason. AKA - Curt Mathews from a 69 to a 20 in 1 season that he did well in.
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a player in real life would refuse to report and ask to be released. plus a pro team would never survive with 24 men. they can barely survive (bullpens especially) with 25
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I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:You dont need to use COACH, It was me..

But I do also know, I never slowed down a sim, Cause i actually apy attention to my DFA's weekly. And if it was that big a deal then yea you should have come and said stop doing it and he would have just ate up one of my 25 man spots, Thus i had to roll with 24 players all season regardless, to make room for this move over and over, So really I dont see the big issue here.
As I said, it stopped the sim multiple times.

Everyone ran a 25 man roster while i had a 24 man until the roster expanded and he was back up there. ANd yea I wasnt about to eat $34 m last season, Was hoping to get him to retire and he did. :D
Thankfully you actually had open spots most of the time... and if I remember right, in the situations you didn't, you had injuries during the sim or from a prior sim that made the fix easy, which is part of why I didn't bother.

Again there was NO RULES against this and it really could happen in RL, Who is to say that the same player cant/wouldnt be waive and designated numerous times in a season ?
Bear... is that you?
Also this cant be worse then someone purposely making a contract to someone which we all knew was crap, But it still went on and continues to.
Guess not.
Know I could see if i just left him there for Reign to handle over and over but that wasnt the case, Either way if it was that big a deal then I guess he should have said something. Still rolled with 24 players all season. 1 less then anyone else. For another player who just fell from mid 40's to a 20 in 1 season, Seems to happen with alot of my players for no apparent reason. AKA - Curt Mathews from a 69 to a 20 in 1 season that he did well in.
It was the case. Hence why I pointed it out.
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I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:You dont need to use COACH, It was me..

But I do also know, I never slowed down a sim, Cause i actually apy attention to my DFA's weekly. And if it was that big a deal then yea you should have come and said stop doing it and he would have just ate up one of my 25 man spots, Thus i had to roll with 24 players all season regardless, to make room for this move over and over, So really I dont see the big issue here.

Everyone ran a 25 man roster while i had a 24 man until the roster expanded and he was back up there. ANd yea I wasnt about to eat $34 m last season, Was hoping to get him to retire and he did. :D

Again there was NO RULES against this and it really could happen in RL, Who is to say that the same player cant/wouldnt be waive and designated numerous times in a season ?


Also this cant be worse then someone purposely making a contract to someone which we all knew was crap, But it still went on and continues to.

Know I could see if i just left him there for Reign to handle over and over but that wasnt the case, Either way if it was that big a deal then I guess he should have said something. Still rolled with 24 players all season. 1 less then anyone else. For another player who just fell from mid 40's to a 20 in 1 season, Seems to happen with alot of my players for no apparent reason. AKA - Curt Mathews from a 69 to a 20 in 1 season that he did well in.
And this guy is next in line to run this league?? :lol:
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"Could not upload file. Error -203. Wrong path."

Any ideas?
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Seeitsaveit13 wrote:"Could not upload file. Error -203. Wrong path."

Any ideas?

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I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:
Seeitsaveit13 wrote:"Could not upload file. Error -203. Wrong path."

Any ideas?

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Baker wrote:
I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:You dont need to use COACH, It was me..

But I do also know, I never slowed down a sim, Cause i actually apy attention to my DFA's weekly. And if it was that big a deal then yea you should have come and said stop doing it and he would have just ate up one of my 25 man spots, Thus i had to roll with 24 players all season regardless, to make room for this move over and over, So really I dont see the big issue here.

Everyone ran a 25 man roster while i had a 24 man until the roster expanded and he was back up there. ANd yea I wasnt about to eat $34 m last season, Was hoping to get him to retire and he did. :D

Again there was NO RULES against this and it really could happen in RL, Who is to say that the same player cant/wouldnt be waive and designated numerous times in a season ?


Also this cant be worse then someone purposely making a contract to someone which we all knew was crap, But it still went on and continues to.

Know I could see if i just left him there for Reign to handle over and over but that wasnt the case, Either way if it was that big a deal then I guess he should have said something. Still rolled with 24 players all season. 1 less then anyone else. For another player who just fell from mid 40's to a 20 in 1 season, Seems to happen with alot of my players for no apparent reason. AKA - Curt Mathews from a 69 to a 20 in 1 season that he did well in.
And this guy is next in line to run this league?? :lol:

Difference will be I WON"T have a team anymore either, like the last 3 have had. But if you can do better jump right in. I have not seen anyone else even offer a hand to help back when he was asking.
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Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:
Seeitsaveit13 wrote:"Could not upload file. Error -203. Wrong path."

Any ideas?

:lol:
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Did you re install or just DL the file ?
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