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Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:38 pm
by trendon
DRiccio21 wrote:why don't you save space and just say its a movement for socialism?
Me?!

Edit: Oh, shift. Sorry. I was about to say, I am all for a borderline free-for-all!

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:41 pm
by trendon
brwnbear wrote:unemployed students.
I think I feel more sorry for murderers and crack addicts than I do for this demographic and I know this is where I lose you guys.

If you attended and paid for a college prior to working and you are not on a "COLLEGE IS ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY OR 0.0% OF THE JOBS WILL HIRE YOU" tract (like medical), then you fucking failed Finance 101 and fully deserve to be in the 1%.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:43 pm
by nick
so once again, how long til you guys are invading canada?

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:43 pm
by jsence2
cdub21 wrote:
Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault

You're not even close to the bottom 1%. Trust me. You have a place to live, you have a computer, and you have HBO.
Beat me to it. He posted this on the internet... and it's a ps3 league. Not even close
lol nice. income wise tho ;)

When you factor in opportunity cost of college, then again no....not even close.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:44 pm
by cdub21
jsence2 wrote:
cdub21 wrote:
Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault

You're not even close to the bottom 1%. Trust me. You have a place to live, you have a computer, and you have HBO.
Beat me to it. He posted this on the internet... and it's a ps3 league. Not even close
lol nice. income wise tho ;)

When you factor in opportunity cost of college, then again no....not even close.
thats not paying my bills

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:49 pm
by Shiftdnb
brwnbear wrote:Basically, its walls streets fault because ........ well he doesnt know why, but he is sure its wall street's fault.

It really incomprehensible that people who are responsible for the well being of thousands of their workers have more say in shaping legislation than unemployed students. It should be the other way around. We should let those who have never had jobs, goals, or ambitions (but they took Econ 101) dictate how our government is run. CEOs that are responsible for guiding their companies against fierce competition world wide, should have no say, because they dont have any idea what is best for their employees. Its not like they are the brightest minds. Everyone knows that these CEOs are in their fields because the CEO Fairy blessed them at birth.
Way to generalize and make it an all so simple step but totally disregard the fact that I've never stated it's all of Wall Streets fault. I do however hold them responsible for the mess they created with the derivatives market, which no one has been held accountable, the financial melt down due to the housing market(even if it was homeowners that defaulted, they knew what they were doing). Dare I mention the savings and loans scandals, Enron, insider trading.

Also, from your position on running the country that I see you post here you're totally for 1% of the population running the 99%, am I correct? Is that your general assumption in stating that there is anyone that shouldn't be involved in running this country? Where you from the Soviet Union?

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:51 pm
by Shiftdnb

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:59 pm
by DRiccio21
you realize there is a difference between corruption in Washington and people succeeding thru capitalism, correct?

just as there is corruption in the top 1%, there is corruption in bottom 99% of people who milk the system.

either you believe in capitalism or you don't... its really not that difficult.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:13 pm
by nick
Bearz (Brwnbear) N Raiderz (Riccio).. running the NDL .. i tried

I guess Seeit would be the N cause he's short

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:16 pm
by trendon
I really hope Bear has you blocked, too. No offense, but the hilarity of you referencing THREE people in a thread and they all have you blocked is too funny.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:23 pm
by nick
trendon wrote:I really hope Bear has you blocked, too. No offense, but the hilarity of you referencing THREE people in a thread and they all have you blocked is too funny.
I feel like Charlie Sheen being shunned by 2 and a half men

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:24 pm
by trendon
nick wrote:
trendon wrote:I really hope Bear has you blocked, too. No offense, but the hilarity of you referencing THREE people in a thread and they all have you blocked is too funny.
I feel like Charlie Sheen being shunned by 2 and a half men
2011. Won. A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:26 pm
by brwnbear
Shiftdnb wrote:
brwnbear wrote:Basically, its walls streets fault because ........ well he doesnt know why, but he is sure its wall street's fault.

It really incomprehensible that people who are responsible for the well being of thousands of their workers have more say in shaping legislation than unemployed students. It should be the other way around. We should let those who have never had jobs, goals, or ambitions (but they took Econ 101) dictate how our government is run. CEOs that are responsible for guiding their companies against fierce competition world wide, should have no say, because they dont have any idea what is best for their employees. Its not like they are the brightest minds. Everyone knows that these CEOs are in their fields because the CEO Fairy blessed them at birth.
Way to generalize and make it an all so simple step but totally disregard the fact that I've never stated it's all of Wall Streets fault. I do however hold them responsible for the mess they created with the derivatives market, which no one has been held accountable, the financial melt down due to the housing market(even if it was homeowners that defaulted, they knew what they were doing). Dare I mention the savings and loans scandals, Enron, insider trading.

Also, from your position on running the country that I see you post here you're totally for 1% of the population running the 99%, am I correct? Is that your general assumption in stating that there is anyone that shouldn't be involved in running this country? Where you from the Soviet Union?
A few points. (I do better with bullet points)
- The letter you posted said it was WS fault. You posted it, so I dont know how you expect me to seperate your posts from you "true" feelings. Its not like I know you personally.
- Alot of people have gone to jail for the savings and loans, enron, and insider trading, not sure why that is important, but I just thought you should know that. The Feds would love to hang someone on wall street for the current mess. If you can find out what laws where broken by CEOs, I am sure they would take your call.
-LOL, the marxist solviet union. Because its so apparent I love socialism. Free money for everyone.
-Thats how our republic works. We elect 1% of the population to govern 99%. If we dont like them, we elect a different 1% to govern the same 99%. Blaming wall street doesnt change reality. Milking them so they pay for an even higher majority of all tax revenue doesnt increase congress. It will still be 1% that represents 99%.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:32 pm
by Shiftdnb
brwnbear wrote: -Thats how our republic works. We elect 1% of the population to govern 99%. If we dont like them, we elect a different 1% to govern the same 99%. Blaming wall street doesnt change reality.
Problem, the 1% aren't our elected officials they are just the people that are in the pockets of our elected officials. See you've hit the nail on the head by stating this. The problem is that our elected officials aren't for the people anymore. They vote for whatever gives them the better chance at filling their campaign coffers. Why is it that when you watch news about a presidential or congress election and it's about how much money someone has instead of where they stand on an issue?

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:38 pm
by trendon
Shiftdnb wrote:
brwnbear wrote: -Thats how our republic works. We elect 1% of the population to govern 99%. If we dont like them, we elect a different 1% to govern the same 99%. Blaming wall street doesnt change reality.
Problem, the 1% aren't our elected officials they are just the people that are in the pockets of our elected officials.
Well, that is our fault, really. You/we/whoever you want to choose has spent more time arguing about this shit in this thread than with the actual politicians than we have in real life. If I had that kinda slack - I can do whatever I want and, maybe occasionally, I'll get called on it by a small group of people - I'd be as corrupt as fuck.

And you can't take real action in this country like our founding fathers did because everyone is so fucking concerned with the safety of themselves, their precious little snowflakes, and feelings that the powers-that-be are corrupt because we let them prance around chanting "For your safety!" anytime there is an important ruling on anything from nuclear power plants to traffic cameras. For your safety! And, in turn, we are a nation of pussies who will willingly sacrifice our liberty for freedom (the biggest no-no possible) and we get insane laws intended to shepard us into nice little groups ... 99% sized groups, for example. If you send a letter or make a phone call, you look like a nutjob since everyone else is watching American Idol and you get nowhere. If you go "extreme" like the fucking people who made the goddamn United States, you are a terrorist and will be water-boarded. For your safety.

All our fault. Wall Street is just simultaneously smart enough and inconsiderate enough to pile on. We are not. That's why we are on a fucking NCAA forum arguing about this shit; we are too chickenshit, too much of a complacent fatcat, and/or too stupid to do anything about it.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:51 pm
by Shiftdnb
trendon wrote:
Shiftdnb wrote:
brwnbear wrote: -Thats how our republic works. We elect 1% of the population to govern 99%. If we dont like them, we elect a different 1% to govern the same 99%. Blaming wall street doesnt change reality.
Problem, the 1% aren't our elected officials they are just the people that are in the pockets of our elected officials.
Well, that is our fault, really. You/we/whoever you want to choose has spent more time arguing about this shit in this thread than with the actual politicians than we have in real life. If I had that kinda slack - I can do whatever I want and, maybe occasionally, I'll get called on it by a small group of people - I'd be as corrupt as fuck.

And you can't take real action in this country like our founding fathers did because everyone is so fucking concerned with the safety of themselves, their precious little snowflakes, and feelings that the powers-that-be are corrupt because we let them prance around chanting "For your safety!" anytime there is an important ruling on anything from nuclear power plants to traffic cameras. For your safety! And, in turn, we are a nation of pussies who will willingly sacrifice our liberty for freedom (the biggest no-no possible) and we get insane laws intended to shepard us into nice little groups ... 99% sized groups, for example. If you send a letter or make a phone call, you look like a nutjob since everyone else is watching American Idol and you get nowhere. If you go "extreme" like the fucking people who made the goddamn United States, you are a terrorist and will be water-boarded. For your safety.

All our fault. Wall Street is just simultaneously smart enough and inconsiderate enough to pile on. We are not. That's why we are on a fucking NCAA forum arguing about this shit; we are too chickenshit, too much of a complacent fatcat, and/or too stupid to do anything about it.
But wait isn't that what this protest thing is all about, doing something about it, making it something that will wake up the American Idol zombies. Yeah we're on a football forum talking about it, but at least we're talking about it.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:52 pm
by brwnbear
Shiftdnb wrote:
brwnbear wrote: -Thats how our republic works. We elect 1% of the population to govern 99%. If we dont like them, we elect a different 1% to govern the same 99%. Blaming wall street doesnt change reality.
Problem, the 1% aren't our elected officials they are just the people that are in the pockets of our elected officials. See you've hit the nail on the head by stating this. The problem is that our elected officials aren't for the people anymore. They vote for whatever gives them the better chance at filling their campaign coffers. Why is it that when you watch news about a presidential or congress election and it's about how much money someone has instead of where they stand on an issue?
I am not getting what this has to do with wall street? Why not complain about the role unions have in elections? They give more money and have more influence than anyone in wall street.

Even better, why not march on Washington if that is the problem.

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:58 pm
by Shiftdnb
Again, IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT WALL STREET.

It's about this...
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:03 pm
by Shiftdnb

Re: Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:05 pm
by DRiccio21
shift... you've been so far all over the place at this point i have no idea what you're even talking about.

its the rich people's fault, its the politicians fault, raises taxes, we need more jobs, racism!, prejudice, life isn't fair!