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How is a person "good" if theyre protesting a statue of someone whos bad being taken down.

If there was a hitler statue in Germany, and ppl tried to remove it, and some ppl protested against it being removed..... ... they wouldnt be looked at as bad people?

if you march to keep a fucking racist statue up, you're a pretty big piece of shit.

Plus most of them look like white trash anyways.

So you take his comments to heart and hear them as truth even though they come off as required and after thoughts of missteps previously?

That's what I hear if you are going to turn it on me and what I hear.

You truly feel he means it when he says what he did about both sides as an afterthought and throw in.

If so that's fine and your right to do so I just wanted to be clear.

You basically believe him when he says those things. I do not.

shel311 wrote:I get the general idea, but what on Earth would compel anyone to intentionally go to one of these rallies, I'll never know.

I'd rather go to Nigeria.

#1 - They are idiots.
#2 - They are paid.

There's probably a 3 through 10, but these 2 should cover most people.

shel311 wrote:So when he said there were good people on both sides, which 2 sides specifically was he speaking about?

The left and right.

Oh man, gotta love when Kellyanne Reign gets going.

Cnasty wrote:So you take his comments to heart and hear them as truth even though they come off as required and after thoughts of missteps previously?

That's what I hear if you are going to turn it on me and what I hear.

You truly feel he means it when he says what he did about both sides as an afterthought and throw in.

If so that's fine and your right to do so I just wanted to be clear.

You basically believe him when he says those things. I do not.

Whether or not you or I believe everything he said is irrelevant. You are literally contradicting yourself here. Just because you don't believe him doesn't mean that he said something that he didn't. Whether or not he meant it doesn't mean that he said something that he didn't. Deal with the facts, he never said anything that supports the Neo Nazis. He clearly defined who he said were good people. Those are facts. My belief and your belief are not facts.

Pretty sure no one at the rally could make a 1 handed catch as good as OBJ

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:So when he said there were good people on both sides, which 2 sides specifically was he speaking about?

The left and right.

The white supremacists and the people protesting them?

There were no good people at that march on Friday night. Those are facts.

NONE

It was labeled Unite the Right. You showed up knowing you were marching with Neo Nazis, KKK members and white supremisists.

To sit here and paint this little picture of he clearly defines who he was talking about is painful to hear knowing full damn well that there were zero good people at that march on Friday night.

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:So when he said there were good people on both sides, which 2 sides specifically was he speaking about?

The left and right.

The white supremacists and the people protesting them?

Depends on who you ask: yes for me. Someone else would say art enthusiasts with a permit to protest vs animals without permits.

BFiVL wrote:Pretty sure no one at the rally could make a 1 handedcatchas good as OBJ

This statement is also likely to be true.

Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

I'm trying to understand what Reign is saying.

If the white supremacists marching were 1 side. I assume that were, how can one argue there we good people on that side?

Thats where I'm going with this one.

Cnasty wrote:There were no good people at that march on Friday night. Those are facts.

NONE

It was labeled Unite the Right. You showed up knowing you were marching with Neo Nazis, KKK members and white supremisists.

To sit here and paint this little picture of he clearly defines who he was talking about is painful to hear knowing full damn well that there were zero good people at that march on Friday night.

You haven't countered a single point that I've made other than filling it with emotion and painting it with a broad brush of evil. You took his comments out of context, you sensationalized it as one of the most despicable acts ever and then after you couldn't support your argument, you just blew it off as "everyone's bad" so yes he did. You're wrong. Period.

Unite the Right is the organization that set it up. But you should read about who they are, who started them, what they have previously been against in the city and the events leading up. If you want to take the simpleminded approach that anyone that supports the statue is wrong, that's your opinion. What it isn't... is fact.

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

I'm trying to understand what Reign is saying.

If the white supremacists marching were 1 side. I assume that were, how can one argue there we good people on that side?

Thats where I'm going with this one.

Because the intial protest was over the bringing down of a statue of Robert E Lee. Which on its surface is fine but when the majority of the people protesting are KKK and Neo Nazis, those few good apples who are art lovers get over looked.

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

I'm trying to understand what Reign is saying.

If the white supremacists marching were 1 side. I assume that were, how can one argue there we good people on that side?

Thats where I'm going with this one.

Because the intial protest was over the bringing down of a statue of Robert E Lee. Which on its surface is fine but when the majority of the people protesting are KKK and Neo Nazis, those few good apples who are art lovers get over looked.

So would that, in fact, mean there are good people on that side, generalizing of course? Meant to say, not neo nazis, obviously.

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

I'm trying to understand what Reign is saying.

If the white supremacists marching were 1 side. I assume that were, how can one argue there we good people on that side?

Thats where I'm going with this one.

For lack of a better term... I'll use right and left.
Right - Bad People: White supremacists
Right - Good People: Citizens protesting the removal of the statue peacefully (shockingly, not all people protesting are white supremacists)

Left - Bad People: Antifa
Left - Good People: Citizens protesting either for the removal of the statue and/or against the white supremacists

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:

shel311 wrote:Unless I'm missing who was at that rally, it was white supremacists rallying and protesters who opposed them, seems like the seems like the 2 sides to me.

Shel going full foghorn leghorn there.

That is the debate here. Our president said there were good people and bad on both sides. I'm hard pressed to believe any on the right side had positive intentions.

I'm trying to understand what Reign is saying.

If the white supremacists marching were 1 side. I assume that were, how can one argue there we good people on that side?

Thats where I'm going with this one.

Because the intial protest was over the bringing down of a statue of Robert E Lee. Which on its surface is fine but when the majority of the people protesting are KKK and Neo Nazis, those few good apples who are art lovers get over looked.

So would that, in fact, mean there are good people on that side, generalizing of course? Meant to say, not neo nazis, obviously.

Apparently that's incorrect if it doesn't fit your narrative.

I consider reign a good person.

If reign decides to support this rally and what this statue means to him. Great.

Reign shows up on Friday night and realizes 98% of the group is Neo Nazis, kkk, and white supremisists.

If reign turns and says, nope! I won't be caught dead marching with this group no matter how much this statue means to me and leaves. Good person.

Reign says, eh I really love this statue and I don't mind marching next to these fellas or being associated with them for tonight. Not a good person

Anyone that was at that rally for the intentions of what this group had planned for Friday is not a good person. Saying there were good people there is a lie.

I took his comments out of context. You are taking his comments as gospel.