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https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/ ... 99776?s=20

Kamala Harris already weighing in on her potential gun laws for her presidential bid... while there are still possibly lives at stake. Gross. I'm sure the targets of the narcotics raid really give a shit about your laws.

Supposedly the shooter is live streaming the event as well

Yes, cops trying to get the stream to figure out where he is.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1159290793640833025

This guy has to be high right?

GeorgesGoons wrote:https://twitter.com/i/status/1159290793640833025

This guy has to be high right?

Seems normal... for West Virginia.

what the hell is going on in Hong Kong?

nick wrote:what the hell is going on in Hong Kong?

Funny you ask, I was wondering the same for a while but honestly never cared enough to really figure out why. Then just yesterday I ran across this dude on Twitter who had this long ass thread explaining it, so I'm kind of an expert on it now

Hong Kong is in China but they call it something like OCTS, which stands for One Country Two Systems. I don't know if saying they have a completely different set of laws is correct but it's along those lines. That deal is supposed to lapse in I think 2047. Lots of folks in HK are very concerned about that as they'll basically go under China's much stricter laws.

Fast forward to somewhat recently, this dude from HK and his girlfriend went to China. He murdered his GF in China then went back to HK. There are no extradition laws between the 2, so he can't be extradited back to China. So HK introduced a bill to allow extradition, which related to that situation sounds reasonable. But those in HK are really concerned that China will abuse that power to extradite innocent people as well as somehow use this bill to eventually set forth in motion a process expediting that 2047 date up sooner.

From there, protests start. Then the citizens are claiming lots of instances of police brutality during these protests.



There may be more to it, but that's basically it the way I understand it.

Shel pretty much nailed it

GeorgesGoons wrote:
They both fire at the same rate of fire, accept the same amount of rounds in a magazine and the muzzle velocity has an extremely negligible difference.

So the ONLY difference between the two above is the AR-15 has a pistol grip and a flash suppressor. Anyone that knows anything about a gun knows that those two additions to a Mini-14 does not make any more deadly that it was previously. And the Mini-14 would not be included in an assault weapons ban if they went back to the 1994 bill that passed.

All you're effectively doing is pointing out they should add the Mini-14 to the bill as that's a clear loop hole...

dakshdar wrote:

GeorgesGoons wrote:
They both fire at the same rate of fire, accept the same amount of rounds in a magazine and the muzzle velocity has an extremely negligible difference.

So the ONLY difference between the two above is the AR-15 has a pistol grip and a flash suppressor. Anyone that knows anything about a gun knows that those two additions to a Mini-14 does not make any more deadly that it was previously. And the Mini-14 would not be included in an assault weapons ban if they went back to the 1994 bill that passed.

All you're effectively doing is pointing out they should add the Mini-14 to the bill as that's a clear loop hole...

What's the loop hole? This gun was made well before the 1994 law so they knew it's capabilities and could have figured a way to include it in their law. That assault weapons ban was nothing more than law against appearance of what looks scary.

I was pointing out how stupid the law was. A pistol grip, bayonet mount or a flash suppressor does not make a weapon any more deadly. Now if they want to talk about muzzle velocity then by all means let's talk. But they can't because it will backfire in their face as most hunting rifles have the same muzzle velocity of these bad assault weapons. It's complete hypocrisy!

wdoupis wrote:Shel pretty much nailed it

He had to copy and paste that from somewhere. When was the last time we have seen a post this long from Shel?

China is the Fredo of Asia

shel311 wrote:

nick wrote:what the hell is going on in Hong Kong?

Funny you ask, I was wondering the same for a while but honestly never cared enough to really figure out why. Then just yesterday I ran across this dude on Twitter who had this long ass thread explaining it, so I'm kind of an expert on it now

Hong Kong is in China but they call it something like OCTS, which stands for One Country Two Systems. I don't know if saying they have a completely different set of laws is correct but it's along those lines. That deal is supposed to lapse in I think 2047. Lots of folks in HK are very concerned about that as they'll basically go under China's much stricter laws.

Fast forward to somewhat recently, this dude from HK and his girlfriend went to China. He murdered his GF in China then went back to HK. There are no extradition laws between the 2, so he can't be extradited back to China. So HK introduced a bill to allow extradition, which related to that situation sounds reasonable. But those in HK are really concerned that China will abuse that power to extradite innocent people as well as somehow use this bill to eventually set forth in motion a process expediting that 2047 date up sooner.

From there, protests start. Then the citizens are claiming lots of instances of police brutality during these protests.



There may be more to it, but that's basically it the way I understand it.

Wasn't Hong Kong actually under British Empire rule and was recently "given back" to China in the last 10 years or so? Not that it has anything to do with it, but this is part of the OCTS history since they have been a royal democratic system or whatever government they call it.

cougnix wrote:

shel311 wrote:

nick wrote:what the hell is going on in Hong Kong?

Funny you ask, I was wondering the same for a while but honestly never cared enough to really figure out why. Then just yesterday I ran across this dude on Twitter who had this long ass thread explaining it, so I'm kind of an expert on it now

Hong Kong is in China but they call it something like OCTS, which stands for One Country Two Systems. I don't know if saying they have a completely different set of laws is correct but it's along those lines. That deal is supposed to lapse in I think 2047. Lots of folks in HK are very concerned about that as they'll basically go under China's much stricter laws.

Fast forward to somewhat recently, this dude from HK and his girlfriend went to China. He murdered his GF in China then went back to HK. There are no extradition laws between the 2, so he can't be extradited back to China. So HK introduced a bill to allow extradition, which related to that situation sounds reasonable. But those in HK are really concerned that China will abuse that power to extradite innocent people as well as somehow use this bill to eventually set forth in motion a process expediting that 2047 date up sooner.

From there, protests start. Then the citizens are claiming lots of instances of police brutality during these protests.



There may be more to it, but that's basically it the way I understand it.

Wasn't Hong Kong actually under British Empire rule and was recently "given back" to China in the last 10 years or so? Not that it has anything to do with it, but this is part of the OCTS history since they have been a royal democratic system or whatever government they call it.

British rule for 100 years. And in 1998 or 1999 is when the left. They had a 100 year lease or something like that.

More Hong Kong talk on Twitter:


https://twitter.com/i/events/1162102993837273088

It's about the concerns of the 2047 deadline of the One Country, Two Systems.

can this blow up into anything bigger than these 2 countries? or is this just like a potential civil war?

nick wrote:can this blow up into anything bigger than these 2 countries? or is this just like a potential civil war?

its not anything like that. this is more like a minor inconvenience for china.

shel311 wrote:

nick wrote:what the hell is going on in Hong Kong?

Funny you ask, I was wondering the same for a while but honestly never cared enough to really figure out why. Then just yesterday I ran across this dude on Twitter who had this long ass thread explaining it, so I'm kind of an expert on it now

Hong Kong is in China but they call it something like OCTS, which stands for One Country Two Systems. I don't know if saying they have a completely different set of laws is correct but it's along those lines. That deal is supposed to lapse in I think 2047. Lots of folks in HK are very concerned about that as they'll basically go under China's much stricter laws.

Fast forward to somewhat recently, this dude from HK and his girlfriend went to China. He murdered his GF in China then went back to HK. There are no extradition laws between the 2, so he can't be extradited back to China. So HK introduced a bill to allow extradition, which related to that situation sounds reasonable. But those in HK are really concerned that China will abuse that power to extradite innocent people as well as somehow use this bill to eventually set forth in motion a process expediting that 2047 date up sooner.

From there, protests start. Then the citizens are claiming lots of instances of police brutality during these protests.



There may be more to it, but that's basically it the way I understand it.

Shel using both extradite and expedite in the same post, correctly. He also just made a summary that's longer in and of itself than anything he's usually willing to read...

Bravo Shel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ ... _here_ama/

TIL theyre called Hong Kongers

Epstein had this painting in his NYC mansion. Pretty funny no matter which way your political lean is