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Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:21 pm
by packsyD22
nick wrote:superbowl champs were 11th in TOP
New Orleans - 11th
Pitt - 6th
New York - 6th
Indianapolis - 23rd
Look at TOP and how any of those teams out of the top 8 went to the playoffs........much bigger sample size.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:30 pm
by nick
packsyD22 wrote:nick wrote:superbowl champs were 11th in TOP
New Orleans - 11th
Pitt - 6th
New York - 6th
Indianapolis - 23rd
Look at TOP and how any of those teams out of the top 8 went to the playoffs........much bigger sample size.
how about no and say I did? I don't have the intangables to the nessecary buttons. I wasn't a math major in a juco college or anything like that
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:46 pm
by Bernie32
I don't think TOP is a direct correlation to winning. Naturally, if a team is a winning, in most cases they are putting together sustainable drives, not 3 and outs, and TOP is the result of winning not the cause. I don't think John Fox is going to go out and tell the Panthers this week to milk the play clock to :01 every second because if we control TOP we are going to win.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:56 pm
by ajalves
Bernie32 wrote:I don't think TOP is a direct correlation to winning. Naturally, if a team is a winning, in most cases they are putting together sustainable drives, not 3 and outs, and TOP is the result of winning not the cause. I don't think John Fox is going to go out and tell the Panthers this week to milk the play clock to :01 every second because if we control TOP we are going to win.
hey man, cool down with the common sense please
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:01 pm
by trendon
The first article that introduced me to my love affair of a website - advancednflstats.com - and really opened up my eyes to a lot of the underbelly of the game.
http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/09 ... ssion.html
Key points
I believe TOP is an “intermediate outcome” in a football game. In other words, it is a natural byproduct of being good at something else. You can’t be good at “time of possession.”
If we want to measure the strength of a team and how likely they are to win games—future games—we don’t want to look at the intermediate outcomes. Intermediate outcomes inject noise from sample error into the process and obscure the root causes of success or failure. To me, TOP is a side-effect of being good at other, more fundamental things.
Of course, late in a game with a small lead, the ability to run out the clock can be critical. But there is no such thing as “running out the clock.” The clock just runs. To run out the clock, a team needs to simply run, or sometimes pass, successfully. Even in this situation, when TOP appears critically important, it’s a byproduct of basic abilities.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:55 pm
by buckeye76
LetsGoPeay wrote:Sure Garcon is fast and runs good routes... when he's running the correct route. I've watched every minute of every Colts game since... forever. I can't count the number of times where I've seen Manning bitch at Garcon because he wasn't where he was supposed to be. I can think of at least three Manning INT's this year that were due to Garcon running the wrong route. Then there's all the dropped balls that went right through his hands. Right now Garcon is a huge example of a risk/reward player. Last year he was probably 80/20 in favor of reward. This year he's breaking even or even slightly negative.
I agree with this, i ve had Garcon on my fantasy team, dropped him, picked him back up....Tonight is the first time in a long while where he may actually put up some nice points. I mean a 9 or 10 here or there but nothing outstanding. Tonight hes got 2 Td's as of now.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:57 pm
by Cnasty
buckeye76 wrote:Tonight.
Fuck cable and their no NFL Network carrying asses.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:03 pm
by cdub21
Cnasty wrote:buckeye76 wrote:Tonight.
Fuck cable and their no NFL Network carrying asses.
nah fuck nfl network
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:05 pm
by buckeye76
Cnasty wrote:buckeye76 wrote:Tonight.
Fuck cable and their no NFL Network carrying asses.
i ve got basic dtv so i can get nfl sunday ticket, and then cable ofcourse. But this maybe my last year of that.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:21 am
by shel311
Cnasty wrote:buckeye76 wrote:Tonight.
Fuck cable and their no NFL Network carrying asses.
ATDHE.net on the PS3, watching games on the TV. Not quite HD, but it'll work, lol.
Oh, and Garcon with a big game tonight, convenient timing.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:16 am
by nick
just imagine Meyer stepped down to go coach the Denver Broncos
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:04 am
by DRiccio21
nick wrote: just imagine Meyer stepped down to go coach the Denver Broncos
would be amazing.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:10 am
by ajalves
DRiccio21 wrote:nick wrote: just imagine Meyer stepped down to go coach the Denver Broncos
would be amazing.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:05 am
by Cnasty
Reunited and it feeeeeeeeels sooooooo goooooooooooooood..
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:09 am
by ajalves
shel311 wrote:
Oh, and Garcon with a big game tonight, convenient timing.
naturally in round 1 of our fantasy playoffs, guy i am playing has Manning (who has sucked royally as of late) and who else??? Garcon!
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:13 pm
by walker213
So.... about Pierre Garcon being a bum...
I'm tellin' ya, everytime I watch him play he's a beast!
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:25 pm
by vicktim7
walker, the colts request you purchase sunday ticket and watch them the rest of the year.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:34 pm
by DRiccio21
my fantasy team wished you watched more then 2 games this season
he finally played good thsi week when i am playing for nothing
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:10 am
by walker213
DRiccio21 wrote:my fantasy team wished you watched more then 2 games this season
he finally played good thsi week when i am playing for nothing
Why do you have that bum on your fantasy team?
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:58 am
by DRiccio21
walker213 wrote:DRiccio21 wrote:my fantasy team wished you watched more then 2 games this season
he finally played good thsi week when i am playing for nothing
Why do you have that bum on your fantasy team?
cause i thought Peyton could make anyone good. and i traded away just about everything to get Peyton, CJ (wait i mean CJ2k for VVV), MJD, and St. Jackson and the Steelers d.
my wr's sucked so i just figured i'd roll with Garcon and then a waiver pickup or hines ward each week. of course even tho that team had 4 first round picks, it couldn't get me out of the bottom half.
gross year