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Cnasty wrote:Devils advocate here. If it isn't as binding and as important as that article demeans it to be, why not step up to the table as the most powerful country in the world and show commitment to the cause?

He has stated he doesn't believe in climate change and it's a "Chinese hoax".

He is trying his hardest to undo every single thing Obama has put into place and has no idea why he is doing it specifically other than for that reason.

This is indefensible.

It is not indefensible. It is one of the reasons people voted for him. He told them that if you want to re-negotiate the terms of the agreement to better suit the US taxpayers he would be fine with that. The fact that France and Germany refuse to re-negotiate, shows that this isn't really about "climate change" but more about the money the US was to pay. This was a bad deal all around for US taxpayers and businesses. China, the worlds largest contributor of pollution and green house gases, is actually allowed to increase their greenhouse gas output until 2030. Yep. All about climate change.
I'm all for a clean planet. Who isn't? This Paris accord was nothing but a sham.

French President Emmanuel Macron Offers Refuge to American Climate Scientists

His reasoning is that it doesn't do enough.

"Tiny, tiny amount" so instead let's do nothing and keep going our way for "business and money for America" as the excuse for his following to get onboard with and F the future for some dollars.

This is part of next steps and the bigger picture. To completely remove the most powerful, 2nd most CO2 producing country from the table is absolutely ridiculous.

I swear the more I read the more I feel like I'm being Punk'd which is why I limit my reading and try to stay positive like sensai Dave has advised.

also NYC's mayor, Pittsburgh mayor, and others have said they'll still follow the accord. Im almost positive the shit Oracle spewed is non sense. China has actually ramped up solar power production and I believe India as well.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6010 ... wer-binge/

According to The Washington Post and Forbes, there are approximately five times more Americans working in solar power than in coal, and renewable energy jobs have been going up steadily the last decade.

Trump is a 70 yr old man whos like 10 yrs away from death. He doesn't give a fuck about the planet.

Arby's has more employees than coal miners in America.-Reddit

Cnasty wrote:so instead let's do nothing

I dont think this means we have decided to do nothing, fwiw.

nick wrote:also NYC's mayor, Pittsburgh mayor, and others have said they'll still follow the accord. Im almost positive the shit Oracle spewed is non sense. China has actually ramped up solar power production and I believe India as well.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6010 ... wer-binge/

According to The Washington Post and Forbes, there are approximately five times more Americans working in solar power than in coal, and renewable energy jobs have been going up steadily the last decade.

Trump is a 70 yr old man whos like 10 yrs away from death. He doesn't give a fuck about the planet.

I see you're still the unintelligent douchebag you've always been. It isn't nonsense but of course anything you disagree with must be wrong. Look it up.

All of that nonsense Oracle spewed is wrong and simple fact checking would do it. Quoting Fox News and people in his administration is not really an accurate way of doing that. Trump as well as the gut he appointed as head of the EPA both have said many times they do not believe in climate change

i do. Alng with his action As well as quotes and comments of removing all of the previous administrations steps.

Towards Shel's comment and Billy added more as well.

Haha, so Nick disagrees with Oracle so Nick is automatically an unintelligent douche bag... Not too hard to see why this guy still falls victim to Trumps nonsense

No. He is an unintelligent douchebag because I've seen his posts on here for the past 5 years. I don't know who you are or even care what you think. You are nothing to me.

It is very clear that you do not really care what anyone thinks. Lets all be grateful that most Americans do not think like you.

I do care what people think. Just not you. I've never met you or talked to you. I've read your posts and think you are very dedicated to what you believe. I just disagree with you.

OracleHCR wrote:No. He is an unintelligent douchebag because I've seen his posts on here for the past 5 years. I don't know who you are or even care what you think. You are nothing to me.

Glad we can have that open dialogue!!!

shel311 wrote:

OracleHCR wrote:No. He is an unintelligent douchebag because I've seen his posts on here for the past 5 years. I don't know who you are or even care what you think. You are nothing to me.

Glad we can have that open dialogue!!!

Yeah. That was kind of harsh. The first thing the guy ever says concerning me is an insult? Nick and I have been insulting each other for years. A casual "fuck you" every now and then. Some guy just coming out of the blue that I've never met? Kiss my ass dude.

you'd think he sat next to you at a blackjack table with that type of reaction!

DRiccio21 wrote:you'd think he sat next to you at a blackjack table with that type of reaction!

19 posts before a blackjack reference was made.

Yup, the ndl is ded

Two weeks ago a guy hit a 17 with the dealer showing a 6. He of course got a face card and busted and the dealer had a 9 down and drew a 3. Tell me that wouldn't piss you off.

OracleHCR wrote:Two weeks ago a guy hit a 17 with the dealer showing a 6. He of course got a face card and busted and the dealer had a 9 down and drew a 3. Tell me that wouldn't piss you off.

I am with you oracle. Play right or go home.