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Got the plat about a week ago. Below is some interesting ideas they had for the game and the ending.
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Speaking to the magazine, creative director Neil Druckmann revealed that Tess had a much darker past in the initial plans for the game, though this was balanced with a more "hopeful" ending.

"What's interesting is that, originally in the story Tess took more of a villain role," Druckmann said. "Tess was betrayed by Joel and took on a mission to pursue him across the country. That storyline never worked out. The storyline shifted and Tess took on this role where she became more of a believer and she helped motivate Joel."

Apparently it was for this reason that the story was changed; the team at Naughty Dog didn't believe that Joel would take on this gargantuan task without something motivating him, like Tess sacrificing herself.

"We had a tough time understanding why Joel would take this journey - we weren't buying it," he continues. "We also had a hard time buying that Tess would go on a vendetta. We could understand her pursuing Joel a little bit, but why would she go for a year around the country? Those things were solved by saying that Tess is going to die when she gets bitten, but her dying wish to Joel is to do this one good thing - help me do this one good thing so my soul can rest because I've done all these horrible things."


This decision in turn impacted on Ellie's character. She was previously envisioned as being much more innocent, refusing to kill other humans for the majority of the game. Again though, the team soon realised that this had practical implications on gameplay.



"Ellie's arc originally was that she didn't kill any non-infected people until the end, when she was going to kill Tess when Tess was torturing Joel," Druckmann continued. "What we realised is that we had to get Ellie engaged more in the combat because when she was disengaged from the action for that long you didn't care so much. So that changed pretty early on. We decided it wasn't going to be about the first time she killed someone, it was more about this coming of age story of the impact that the horrors of violence has on her over the course of the game.

"That culminates with her conflict with David. That happened pretty quickly, just based on some things we realised about the story and how we had to integrate it into the gameplay."


So what does this mean for the original ending? Well, the plan was for Joel and Ellie to make it to San Francisco where they'd live out the rest of their lives in peace. Unfortunately, both members of the development team and focus testers were unhappy with it as it was viewed as both anticlimactic and too definitive.



"The original ending when we pitched the game was a much more hopeful ending, where Joel and Ellie make it to San Francisco and that is a town run by people who are trying to restore society," Druckmann continued. "Joel has killed all these doctors and lied to Ellie, and Ellie just fully buys into the lie. So, you're left with the idea that they are going to live the rest of their lives in this town. The camera pulls back and maybe everything is going to be alright for these two. I was working on writing, and it didn't feel honest anymore. After everything they've done and everything they've been through, that was letting them off a little too easy - especially for Joel.

"When we did focus testing, at least initially until some of the hospital stuff started coming together, it tested very poorly. People said it's unclear, anticlimactic, unsatisfying... A lot of people at the company felt the same way. A few designers didn't like the ending I had in mind. But then, as time passed and they thought about it, they came around and really appreciated. I think that happened with other people, too."
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Any guesses on DLC? I would love to see a game dedicated to Ish's story but I'm guessing they're gonna go with Bill.
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sixpackdan101 wrote:Any guesses on DLC? I would love to see a game dedicated to Ish's story but I'm guessing they're gonna go with Bill.
Bill would suck. Ish would be great
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Pretty disappointed with that ending.

I feel they left it to set up for a sequel of course but didn't really like it after all that.

Last stages of the game were pretty awesome though.
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Should be announced in the next few weeks. Ish would be the best but, of course, he dies at some point. However, there is certainly enough story there. Bill wouldn't be too bad because we don't know where his story goes. He's also innovative which could mean new weapons. Joel's brother is always a possibility. I just hope that is the end of Joel/Ellie until the sequel.
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remind me who Ish is
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He is the one with all the notes and drawings Joel would find
Ish is an unseen character in The Last of Us. All that is known about him comes from a series of notes found by Joel during The Suburbs chapter of the game.
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Hoos wrote:Should be announced in the next few weeks. Ish would be the best but, of course, he dies at some point. However, there is certainly enough story there. Bill wouldn't be too bad because we don't know where his story goes. He's also innovative which could mean new weapons. Joel's brother is always a possibility. I just hope that is the end of Joel/Ellie until the sequel.
How do you know Ish dies? Maybe I missed that collectable. When you get out of the sewer you find another note from Ish talking about how one the moms is distraught but two of them made it out and locked the infected in the sewer.
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I took away he wasnt dead either and left the others inside and that mass suicide/kill happened?
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Yea, you are right. I was confusing him with the body found in the sewers.
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For those of you with working PS3s :cry:

The DLC is expected to be announced this week.

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Just beat this.

Great game. Very Intense.
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it was a fun one for sure
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So why play it again if its basically the same story with added expansion pack that was already out on the PS3?
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Cnasty wrote:So why play it again if its basically the same story with added expansion pack that was already out on the PS3?
Because all you silly early PS4 adopters have no games to play.
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Hoos wrote:
Cnasty wrote:So why play it again if its basically the same story with added expansion pack that was already out on the PS3?
Because all you silly early PS4 adopters have no games to play.
If we all could have only played the most overhyped POS ever.....South park!!!1


man, we're really missing out!!!!
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Hoos wrote:
Cnasty wrote:So why play it again if its basically the same story with added expansion pack that was already out on the PS3?
Because all you silly early PS4 adopters have no games to play.
Last time I checked, I had about 10 game I for my PS4......not including the free games from PS, which I have about 5-6 that I like........ :shock:
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LytezOut wrote:
Hoos wrote:
Cnasty wrote:So why play it again if its basically the same story with added expansion pack that was already out on the PS3?
Because all you silly early PS4 adopters have no games to play.
Last time I checked, I had about 10 game I for my PS4......not including the free games from PS, which I have about 5-6 that I like........ :shock:
This is not true. You have no games.
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It's time for the NDL to step up and help out poor Hoos and his non-PS4 ways:

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