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No, you are closed minded to anything that doesn't fit what you want it to say.

All they are talking about is how testing has shown that this isn't as deadly as once thought. At one point in the beginning we were going to lose millions of people, then as more testing showed more positives and the deaths didn't elevate with those positives it proves it's not as deadly as first thought.

They tested 5200 people and 300 were positive!! sick.. that means that a ton are negative..

you know what negative people can become right?.. positive

they never said the 4500ish "negatives" had herd immunity antibodies in their system.. just that they were negative.

sick.. good data.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:06 pm what data? they said fatality rate is lower in covid when thats mathematically impossible since 54k > 32k (last yr) and 54k > 40k (worst year in 10 years).

what other BS data are they saying?

sorry im closed minded to bullshit..

Fatality rate is not the total # of fatalities like you said here, fwiw.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:24 pm They tested 5200 people and 300 were positive!! sick.. that means that a ton are negative..

you know what negative people can become right?.. positive

they never said the 4500ish "negatives" had herd immunity antibodies in their system.. just that they were negative.

sick.. good data.

Listen to all the numbers. They are all pretty relative in gaining an understanding of how widespread it is. Roughly 20%-30% of everyone tested positive in all the testing numbers they provided (from the CDC website). Now if you use that 20% number against the deaths you start seeing more of a .1% death rate instead of the 4% death rate.

you cannot find 1 reputable site sharing this information.. not 1 lol

https://www.turnto23.com/news/coronavir ... re-doctors

"So, I can confirm that the doctor at Accelerated has spoken with our director. Our director has not concurred with the statements that were made yesterday about the need to re-open at this time," said Michelle Corson.

shel311 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:27 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:06 pm what data? they said fatality rate is lower in covid when thats mathematically impossible since 54k > 32k (last yr) and 54k > 40k (worst year in 10 years).

what other BS data are they saying?

sorry im closed minded to bullshit..

Fatality rate is not the total # of fatalities like you said here, fwiw.

based off CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.

so 9 mil = 12k deaths (0.001333333%)
or 45 mil = 61k deaths (0.001355556%)

so for Fatality Rate to be lower than this.. at the current 55 118 deaths, there would need to be 40 660 819 infected with Covid right now for it to be 0.001355556% (the higher of the numbers) or like 1 in 10.. and I doubt thats even remotely true.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:31 pm you cannot find 1 reputable site sharing this information.. not 1 lol

Sharing testing information? Everyone is sharing testing information

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2 ... new-cases/

the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

In conclusion,

Is it a global killer? no.
is it worse than anything we've dealt with in a very long time + have no vaccine to it? yes.

Thanks,
Nick.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

Once again, you are taking 30 seconds from a 50 minute video because you don't want to see the whole picture. Did you see the numbers for New York that they mentioned? Or all of California?

For all of the US, there have been 5.5M tests. Of those tests 17.4% have resulted in a positive. So if you assume 17.4% of the US are/have been positive for COVID-19 then your death rate is now 0.08%

These numbers were taken from the Politico site I posted above.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:46 pm In conclusion,

Is it a global killer? no.
is it worse than anything we've dealt with in a very long time + have no vaccine to it? yes.
Is it bad enough to close businesses down? NO

Thanks,
Nick.

added one for you

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:52 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

Once again, you are taking 30 seconds from a 50 minute video because you don't want to see the whole picture. Did you see the numbers for New York that they mentioned? Or all of California?

For all of the US, there have been 5.5M tests. Of those tests 17.4% have resulted in a positive. So if you assume 17.4% of the US are/have been positive for COVID-19 then your death rate is now 0.08%

These numbers were taken from the Politico site I posted above.

For all of the US, there have been 5.5M tests. Of those tests 17.4% have resulted in a positive.

dope.. so this airborne virus isnt contagious? cause u can test negative 2moro and test positive today.. so theres been 5.5m tests total and 17% positive.. in those tests.. do 5.5m tests 2moro in 1 day and see how many are positive.. then do 5.5m tests the next day and see how many are positive.. then get back to me on this.

also those numbers dont take into account when youre a +, they stop testing u cause youre a +.. when youre a -, they keep testing you especially if you work in the medical field to make sure youre not a +. so how many of the 5.5 million are repeat tests? especially in the medical industry? id say a lot.. so the number is still not that low..

anyways..

hit me up when it says "there are 5.5 million americans tested... oh them 17% were positive and the remaining 83% had antibodies in their system making them immune to the disease"..

until then I dont care.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:17 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:52 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

Once again, you are taking 30 seconds from a 50 minute video because you don't want to see the whole picture. Did you see the numbers for New York that they mentioned? Or all of California?

For all of the US, there have been 5.5M tests. Of those tests 17.4% have resulted in a positive. So if you assume 17.4% of the US are/have been positive for COVID-19 then your death rate is now 0.08%

These numbers were taken from the Politico site I posted above.

For all of the US, there have been 5.5M tests. Of those tests 17.4% have resulted in a positive.

dope.. so this airborne virus isnt contagious? cause u can test negative 2moro and test positive today.. so theres been 5.5m tests total and 17% positive.. in those tests.. do 5.5m tests 2moro in 1 day and see how many are positive.. then do 5.5m tests the next day and see how many are positive.. then get back to me on this.

also those numbers dont take into account when youre a +, they stop testing u cause youre a +.. when youre a -, they keep testing you especially if you work in the medical field to make sure youre not a +. so how many of the 5.5 million are repeatable medical personnel? id say a lot.. so the number is still not that low..

anyways..

Thanks, I am dumber now for reading that

Those numbers is a snapshot of what we could expect if everyone was tested. How many of those 5.5M tests were done on the same person more than once? You'll never get a definitive number, but 5.5M tests is enough to show this isn't as deadly as originally thought. But if you are old or have multiple underlying conditions it is still as deadly as we originally thought, that hasn't changed. Once again, healthy people are not dying at a rate to shut down the country.

We will see how this all works out in the next month now that cities/states are starting to slowly open up.

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

Where's our expert Dak?

Isnt' 5k out of 900k very much a large enough sample size to be statistically significant?

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:21 pm hit me up when it says "there are 5.5 million americans tested... oh them 17% were positive and the remaining 83% had antibodies in their system making them immune to the disease"..

until then I dont care.

of course you don't care. You are having a hard time understanding the numbers since they don't fit what you want it to say. It's not that deadly, period. The numbers prove that

shel311 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:23 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 pm

nick wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm the 2 docs in the video (who arent practicing social distancing btw).. if you google their names, no reputable sources.. if you google their info.. no rep sources.. if you google their company.. nothing..

if you go to reviews its 1* quack 5* these guys are truuuu american heroesss

but ya.. no like.. reputable places. only if its to dispute these guys.

Who cares about them. They are providing verifiable data about the testing numbers. That was the point. It's time to open businesses back up, if people want to stay home, then let them stay home. But business owners that want to get out and work should be able to. Once again, healthy people are not dying at an alarming rate due to COVID-19.

theyve tested 5k ppl in a 900k city.. or less than 1% of the population.. Do you understand sample size?

Where's our expert Dak?

Isnt' 5k out of 900k very much a large enough sample size to be statistically significant?

How about testing 5.5M out of 329M people? I'd say that is a significant sample size

How it reads to the average person.

Nick = all lives matter. One death is one to many

Georgie = fuck the old people I wanna clean some trucks. They gonna die anyway.

Neither giving an inch