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Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:26 pm
by Cnasty
Read this today. Teetering on some conspiracy lines but as we have learned from movies and life....follow the $$$$

It's worth the wall of text :)

.In case you haven't connected the news dots... Putin controls the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into the emails and gave them to wikileaks in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the Secretary of State. Wonder why our President has been so quick to dismiss the CIA's findings?....it gets better..2/...

Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves 1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian UK......phew.....did you make it thru all of that?....#RUSSIANTRUMP

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:26 pm
by Cnasty
GeorgesGoons wrote:To the Bitcoin shit. Can you buy anything with it? Is it currency? I have zero clue what this is, besides hearing about it over the years
1: not anything but most things or where vendors/companies offer it as an acceptable form of payment
2: yes it's currency

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:04 pm
by DRiccio21
the guy takes ALOT of liberties in that post. some of them aren't really factually accurate, some are details that are impossible to know so he's just taking wild speculation.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:07 pm
by OracleHCR
GeorgesGoons wrote:Honest question.....

What happens if the probe finds nothing and Comey testifies next week and doesn't collaborate anything the media is saying?

Where do we go from there?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:10 pm
by nick

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:11 pm
by nick
OracleHCR wrote:
GeorgesGoons wrote:Honest question.....

What happens if the probe finds nothing and Comey testifies next week and doesn't collaborate anything the media is saying?

Where do we go from there?
wont have to worry about that.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:27 pm
by nick

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:19 pm
by nick

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:18 pm
by buckeye76
69 pages about Trump.....haha....the dude is a moron. Not saying Clinton was any better but this dude is a quack.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:56 am
by BFiVL
Of all people. Stephen A Smith was on Fox News and killed.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
by GeorgesGoons
BFiVL wrote:Of all people. Stephen A Smith was on Fox News and killed.
A couple of days ago right with Ted Nugent right? I saw that one and he was good.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 3:24 pm
by BFiVL
GeorgesGoons wrote:
BFiVL wrote:Of all people. Stephen A Smith was on Fox News and killed.
A couple of days ago right with Ted Nugent right? I saw that one and he was good.

Yes. That's the one. Was very good argument on media representation

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:22 pm
by nick
Michael Flynn is pleading the fifth after asking for immunity and getting denied. classic. add this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... d-a-crime/

American politics are the best.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:09 pm
by shel311
nick wrote:Michael Flynn is pleading the fifth after asking for immunity
From the article, in 2016:
“When you are given immunity, that means you probably committed a crime,” Flynn, then a top campaign aide to Donald Trump, said on “Meet the Press.”

Oops!!

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:52 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote:
nick wrote:Michael Flynn is pleading the fifth after asking for immunity
From the article, in 2016:
“When you are given immunity, that means you probably committed a crime,” Flynn, then a top campaign aide to Donald Trump, said on “Meet the Press.”

Oops!!
Flynn is/was a basket case. I'd love to hear what some other Generals have to say about him. But nobody will talk because of the "fraternity" of the Officer Corps

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:25 pm
by Cnasty
Awwwwwwwkwarddddddd

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Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:45 am
by GeorgesGoons
Looks like they are going to a funeral

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:44 pm
by shel311
Image

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:24 pm
by Weasel
Aaahahaha

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:29 pm
by shel311
ELI5 - This Paris Accord thing that Trump didn't sign or whatever.