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DRiccio21 wrote:money and fame and all that don't do much in terms of helping people resolve problems or make people any 'happier'

i know its my standard go to line, but people are people regardless of what they have. we all have the same issues just some of them are masked with different levels of excess.

some of the richest guys i know, i'm talking worth hundreds of millions of dollars who are getting fucked by models flown in on planes from all over the country are the most miserable humans i know. we all want what we don't have but when we get it we will always find other things to be miserable about. happiness comes from within and no amount of money changes that.

I know I am late to this discussion and I am not trying to debate with anyone, but I completely agree with Riccio.
IMO, money and fame add to the problems, not make less problems or make life easier.
Happiness definitely comes from within.

Holy crap. I can't believe only one person died from that.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one ... nt-n786901

Solar eclipse coming in August. Enter your zip code for details, pretty cool site:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... active-map

In zip code 75070, you will see a partial solar eclipse.
The eclipse will peak at 1:09:48 pm CDT, when the moon obscures 77.1% of the sun.

Alarm is set!

shel311 wrote:Solar eclipse coming in August. Enter your zip code for details, pretty cool site:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... active-map

Extremely pissed about this. Cookeville, TN. We're right in the middle of the path and I'll be in freaking Pittsburgh for work

The Amazon guy has surpassed Bill Gates, Bezos is now the richest man in the world.

shel311 wrote:The Amazon guy has surpassed Bill Gates, Bezos is now the richest man in the world.

1 share of Amazon stock right now costs almost $1100.

Amazon is going to rule the world.

Cnasty wrote:

shel311 wrote:The Amazon guy has surpassed Bill Gates, Bezos is now the richest man in the world.

1 share of Amazon stock right now costs almost $1100.

Amazon is going to rule the world.

And just think it all started as a place to buy books.

Look at what Zuck has done to FB as well.

He continues to gobble up competitors and is defying the odds to not become the next MySpace as they continue to grow the platform socially and professionally.

It is impressive to see the rise of these companies in our lifetime with these young leaders at the helm.

On Bezos (from Forbes):

Bezos would be nowhere close to being the world’s wealthiest person had Gates not given so much of his fortune to philanthropy. Gates, who created the Giving Pledge with Buffett to encourage billionaires to give at least half of their wealth to charitable causes, had given away $31.1 billion over the course of his lifetime through end of 2016. Forbes estimates that Bezos, who has not signed the pledge, had given approximately $100 million to charity through the end of 2015.

So... Gates still wins right?

dakshdar wrote:Forbes estimates that Bezos, who has not signed the pledge, had given approximately $100 million to charity through the end of 2015.

What a loser!!!

some of the net worths of folks makes my head spin. holy fuck.

nick wrote:some of the net worths of folks makes my head spin. holy fuck.

Every time Amazon stock goes up 1%, Bezos makes $1B.

dakshdar wrote:

nick wrote:some of the net worths of folks makes my head spin. holy fuck.

Every time Amazon stock goes up 1%, Bezos makes $1B.

That number makes my head spin! Just 1%?!?

He owns 16.7% of the outstanding shares of Amazon, which is approximately 81,000,000 shares. Current trading price is ~$1070 per share. So this is worth about $86.67 billion. And when the value of the stock goes up ~1%, his stock value increases ~$867 million. So, pretty close to $1B.

Not sure if anyone followed the story, but Charlie Gard from the UK passed away. Such a sad story and scary to think that many in America want to go to the single payer healthcare system.

Long story short, baby has a condition, UK decides he's too far gone and can't be treated. Family raises over $1mil and a US doctor is willing to perform treatment. UK says nope. Family says can we at least take him home to die, UK says nope. Same UK hospital finds "fresh evidence" about a possible treatment for his condition, runs some tests on the kid only to decide now his condition has worsened and it's too late for said treatment.




I don't know if all of this is true, but read some of these details as well:

Trump wanted Charlie here.
The U.S. Congress voted to grant Charlie permanent U.S. residence.
The internet raised about $1.75 million to pay for his treatment.
A doctor in the U.S. agreed to admit Charlie and treat him.
The Pope said that Charlie should be allowed to be treated in the U.S.

But the healthcare system of the UK said no, so that was that.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-me ... gard-case/

I as a parent and you would want anything and everything done and blindly follow any hope no matter how small it may be but at a certain point a dr should be able step in after they and multiple other physicians came to the conclusion that they were doing nothing but prolonging the suffering of that poor baby in this horrible situation. The only thing that would have turned out different if he was born in the US would be his parents would live with the horrible emotional as well as the financial ruin of our shitty healthcare system.

Why couldn't that US doctor come over and do the treatment in the U.K versus trying to transport a dying child thousands of miles?

Crowes wrote:http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-me ... gard-case/

I as a parent and you would want anything and everything done but at a certain point a dr should be able step in after they and multiple other physicians came to the conclusion that they were doing nothing but prolonging the suffering of that poor baby in this horrible situation. The only thing that would have turned out different if he was born in the US would be his parents would live with the horrible emotional as well as the financial ruin of our shitty healthcare system.

I'm not arguing that some doctors felt he was too far gone. But you can't deny that other doctors also felt that he had a small chance with a certain kind of treatment, that is so. If it were your kid, I find it hard to believe if a few doctors felt this way, you'd just want to throw in the towel.

Also, that article you linked seemed very factual, but it also seemed to be slanted towards the hospital and left out vital facts. It ignores the facts that 2 hospitals in America had agreed to accept and admit and treat him.

It also leaves out the fact the hospital treating him that had previously decided there was no hope, all of sudden requested a hearing due to "fresh evidence" that may help save him. The problem was, at the point they did they, they ran some tests and his conditions had gotten worse and decide he was too sick to continue. Had they allowed this to go through a few months ago when this issue started up, he may very well have been in good enough shape to receive the treatment and give at least a little hope.

Like I said, the article you linked just leaves out some very important items in this story.

Cnasty wrote:Why couldn't that US doctor come over and do the treatment in the U.K versus trying to transport a dying child thousands of miles?

I don't think it was really about that. It was basically the government's own doctors decided he had no hope for survival and didn't want to cause him any more suffering.

If virtually every doctor agreed, it would make sense. But it certainly seems like other doctors and international hospitals felt that he had hope, and the hospital where he was staying basically conceded and admitted as much...but as you can see in my previous post, they did so too late.