Politics and stuff

[nick]

i assume its the emails? If so then they needed to be brought to light...

[shel311]

Right, but the Russians hacked their emails. Ok, and what? Be mad at the Russians...what else is there to do?

And I mean that honestly. But again, I really don't know much in terms of the details.

[ReignOnU]

It's possible that we are experiencing the craziest political/societal shift in the history of the United States. This is so far beyond Clinton vs Trump... Assange, O'Keefe, Kim Dotcom, Anonymous... and now the FBI... it is literally everything you could ever imagine that it is, minus unicorns... so far.

Satanic rituals... child trafficking... magical "pizza" parties... unicorns are coming soon.

lol did someone hack reigns account?

Back from Nov 4th... I think most of that stuff came to light over the last month. The scope of some of that stuff is so far out there.

[Crowes]

Not even sure I understand what's going on with that. So the Russians hacked the democrats? Ok, that's your fault/problem Democrats. What am I missing?

Why the Russians were willing to mettle in our elections to help Trump is the question most are asking I think.

[shel311]

We can be up in arms if we find an answer that makes it worth being angry.

Til then...

[Crowes]

We can be up in arms if we find an answer that makes it worth being angry.

Til then...

Granted it revealed the shady shit going on in the DNC but a foreign government putting their finger on the scale, yes I know we do it all the time to other countries, it should be very unsettling to us at a minimum with so much we don't know about trump. Now what the Democrats did was wrong and it should have been brought to light but that shouldn't pull the blinders over our eyes to what could be a even bigger problem. Two wrongs don't make a right as the old saying goes lol

We as Americans have lost our collective shit and spent millions and years investagating over far less and on just the appeerance of wrong doin ie emails and BengazI lol

I know this could be nothing more then putin giving a big fuck you to Clinton for how she caused him problems with a past Russian election but it still deserves attention if it could be something more

[GeorgesGoons]

We as Americans have lost our collective shit and spent millions and years investagating over far less and on just the appeerance of wrong doin ie emails and BengazI lol

I'm sorry, I don't follow you hear. The "lol" after the "appearance" of wrong doing in Benghazi? Really?!? And emails? There is a sailor that was sentenced to 6 months confinement for taking a picture of the nuclear reactor in a submarine, didn't share it or anything else and we are expected to look away from all the shit Hillary did with her server? (I won't even touch how we fucked up Benghazi) When it comes to national secrets money and power shouldn't be a factor whether you are right or wrong. I've held a Top Secret SCI clearance and if I did 10% of the shit Hillary did I'd be in jail.


As far as the hacking by the Russians.... Democrats should be irate with the shit that was exposed in those emails. I truly believe Bernie would have won in a landslide against Trump but the establishment democrats wanted Hillary to be the first woman president. They completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, otherwise they would have done everything in their power to ensure Bernie was their nominee.

[nick]

"hey completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, "

people are aware she won the popular vote right?

[GeorgesGoons]

"hey completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, "

people are aware she won the popular vote right?

1/3 of the nation lives in the 5 largest cities. Popular vote doesn't matter, if it did then over half the country would be irrelevant in their vote.

[shel311]

"hey completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, "

people are aware she won the popular vote right?

I mean she lost to Trump and even though she got more votes, it wasn't that much more... And again, to Trump. I think the statement is fair.

[nick]

lol 90% of the states votes are meaningless now anyways. Blues will be blue, reds will be red. Theres like 5-10 states thta change and thats all that really matters.

[GeorgesGoons]

lol 90% of the states votes are meaningless now anyways. Blues will be blue, reds will be red. Theres like 5-10 states thta change and thats all that really matters.

True

[Crowes]

We as Americans have lost our collective shit and spent millions and years investagating over far less and on just the appeerance of wrong doin ie emails and BengazI lol

I'm sorry, I don't follow you hear. The "lol" after the "appearance" of wrong doing in Benghazi? Really?!? And emails? There is a sailor that was sentenced to 6 months confinement for taking a picture of the nuclear reactor in a submarine, didn't share it or anything else and we are expected to look away from all the shit Hillary did with her server? (I won't even touch how we fucked up Benghazi) When it comes to national secrets money and power shouldn't be a factor whether you are right or wrong. I've held a Top Secret SCI clearance and if I did 10% of the shit Hillary did I'd be in jail.


As far as the hacking by the Russians.... Democrats should be irate with the shit that was exposed in those emails. I truly believe Bernie would have won in a landslide against Trump but the establishment democrats wanted Hillary to be the first woman president. They completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, otherwise they would have done everything in their power to ensure Bernie was their nominee.

Benghazi was a failure on multiple levels no one person is to blame like the right likes to put out in their false narrative. There a 800 page report put out by Republicans that says just that. Yes it was horrible that americans died but can we put that BS about blaming Clinton to bed? Your outrage at clinton is hypocrisy because none of you guys acknowledge the previous and just as horrific
failings by past administration in embassy security.

Everyone who claims to be an American should be irate about the content and who released the content.

The emails were 2 that were wrongly sent and not marked. If I read correct she had a government server for classified emails and that's where they all stayed. Was it a bad decision to have a private server yes but was it criminal as far as our legal system has determined it wasn't illegal cause she didn't intend for classified information to be sent on that server. If you wanna lose ur shit and blow it up into something more then it was then thats cool whatever.

How can you not be just as outraged and inquisitive on all the conflicts of interest shit show involving Trump? He owes almost a billion dollars in loans to foreign banks but we will probably never know the extent because you all have set the bar so insanely low for what is expected of him and his administration.

The lol wasn't ment for Benghazi solely just the whole idea of past conservative witch hunts.

[GeorgesGoons]

We as Americans have lost our collective shit and spent millions and years investagating over far less and on just the appeerance of wrong doin ie emails and BengazI lol

I'm sorry, I don't follow you hear. The "lol" after the "appearance" of wrong doing in Benghazi? Really?!? And emails? There is a sailor that was sentenced to 6 months confinement for taking a picture of the nuclear reactor in a submarine, didn't share it or anything else and we are expected to look away from all the shit Hillary did with her server? (I won't even touch how we fucked up Benghazi) When it comes to national secrets money and power shouldn't be a factor whether you are right or wrong. I've held a Top Secret SCI clearance and if I did 10% of the shit Hillary did I'd be in jail.


As far as the hacking by the Russians.... Democrats should be irate with the shit that was exposed in those emails. I truly believe Bernie would have won in a landslide against Trump but the establishment democrats wanted Hillary to be the first woman president. They completely over estimated how much people HATE(D) Hillary, otherwise they would have done everything in their power to ensure Bernie was their nominee.

Benghazi was a failure on multiple levels no one person is to blame like the right likes to put out in their false narrative. There a 800 page report put out by Republicans that says just that. Yes it was horrible that americans died but can we put that BS about blaming Clinton to bed? Your outrage at clinton is hypocrisy because none of you guys acknowledge the previous and just as horrific
failings by past administration in embassy security.

Everyone who claims to be an American should be irate about the content and who released the content.

The emails were 2 that were wrongly sent and not marked. If I read correct she had a government server for classified emails and that's where they all stayed. Was it a bad decision to have a private server yes but was it criminal as far as our legal system has determined it wasn't illegal cause she didn't intend for classified information to be sent on that server. If you wanna lose ur shit and blow it up into something more then it was then thats cool whatever.

How can you not be just as outraged and inquisitive on all the conflicts of interest shit show involving Trump? He owes almost a billion dollars in loans to foreign banks but we will probably never know the extent because you all have set the bar so insanely low for what is expected of him and his administration.

The lol wasn't ment for Benghazi solely just the whole idea of past conservative witch hunts.

Read the actual law concerning this. There needs to be ZERO intent involved to be found guilty. This is why so many service members with clearances were absolutely outraged by the decision of the FBI. He even said in his press conference that she was negligent, enough to get her convicted. And no, there were classified emails on her private server. And I don't care who hacked their shit. The content of those emails and the corruption in the DNC should piss you off more as a Democrat than it pisses me off. The DNC didn't want a fairly elected official. They wanted their bitch to run and only her.

The democrats truly fucked up by nominating her. They lost the election because of it.

[ReignOnU]

Trump gets shit on in the media for his comments about Air Force One and Boeing... then he meets with Boeing...

Dennis Muilenburg, the Boeing CEO, praised Trump for his "business head" and said the two had a very productive meeting where they discussed how the country could build two new Air Force One planes for less than the $4 billion, which Trump criticized on Twitter this month.

"We're going to get it done for less than that," Muilenburg said. "I was able to give the president-elect my personal commitment on behalf of the Boeing Company. This is a business that's important to us. We work on Air Force One because it's important to our country and we're going to make sure that he gets the best capability and that it's done affordably."

Bring on that shitshow that is Lockheed Martin and the F35.

[shel311]

So he got shit on about the $4 billion, which turned out to be correct, and now he'll get that number reduced? Is that correct?

But people won't talk about that nearly as much.

[nick]

Trump is the only person to say it was 4 billion. Not hard to be under the # you made up.

[ReignOnU]

Trump is the only person to say it was 4 billion. Not hard to be under the # you made up.

The quote is from the Boeing CEO. Correct that Trump is the only one to quote the $4b, but Boeing's only reply was that they had an initial entry contract of $170m. They didn't discuss the actual production contract/multi-year agreement. The initial budget for that was like $2.8b and it was "known" that the bid from Boeing was over that. Just my own opinion, but Trump likely saw what the full financial side of that was and the +$4b is likely accurate. Boeing seems pretty damn eager to get the job done for less.

[Seeitsaveit13]

Trump is the only person to say it was 4 billion. Not hard to be under the # you made up.

The quote is from the Boeing CEO. Correct that Trump is the only one to quote the $4b, but Boeing's only reply was that they had an initial entry contract of $170m. They didn't discuss the actual production contract/multi-year agreement. The initial budget for that was like $2.8b and it was "known" that the bid from Boeing was over that. Just my own opinion, but Trump likely saw what the full financial side of that was and the +$4b is likely accurate. Boeing seems pretty damn eager to get the job done for less.

Turned bad pub (accurate or not) into good pub quickly. Smart move by Boeing

[DRWebs]

Turned bad pub (accurate or not) into good pub quickly. Smart move by Boeing