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Bernie32 wrote:

trendon wrote:Anyone want to argue with me now about Rivers being an elite, elite, elite QB?

I will not argue with it, but I do want to point out that when you are debating Brady & Brees you point out Brady's "wins", yet Rivers has never won anything. In fact, San Diego is always underachieving. Why the discrepancy?

Boom goes Bernie!!!

Trendon isn't exactly rational when it comes go evaluating Patriots' players. See Moss for Allen lol. And then u can multiply that by 100 for Brady.

Well, now that the joking is aside.

Guess who the two winningest quarterbacks of all-time are?

trendon wrote:Well, now that the joking is aside.

Guess who the two winningest quarterbacks of all-time are?

I don't care about team stats for individuals so it doesn't matter.

I never see anyone talk about the winningest middle linebacker of all time.

shel311 wrote:

trendon wrote:Well, now that the joking is aside.

Guess who the two winningest quarterbacks of all-time are?

I don't care about team stats for individuals so it doesn't matter.

I never see anyone talk about the winningest middle linebacker of all time.

You are just doing this to fuck with me. According to Shelton, there is literally no way to compare quarterbacks.

Wait, who is rated higher in Madden?

I have no idea what ur talking about.

I've always been completely against using wins and titles as such a big factor when judging any individual in any sport. So it's no different with QBs. Ive been as consistent as humanly possible with that stance.

shel311 wrote:I have no idea what ur talking about.

I've always been completely against using wins and titles as such a big factor when judging any individual in any sport. So it's no different with QBs. Ive been as consistent as humanly possible with that stance.

The Quarterback position is an entirely different animal, though. You need to use statistics and your eyeballs to determine value. You also have to use history so you make sure this player won't regress from a superb 24-game run (re: Josh Freeman).

Incidentally, if you use the WPA stat (Win Probability Added), Brees was the best in the league over the first half and Brady is middle-of-the-road.

Anyway, amuse me, at least for Bernie's sake.

Name the two winningest QB's of all-time.

trendon wrote:Anyway, amuse me, at least for Bernie's sake.

Name the two winningest QB's of all-time.

I haven't the slightest clue so I'm guessing here.

One of the two has to be Favre, just based on how long he's been around and has been on many successful teams.

I wanna say Peyton Manning since they win 12 games every damn year, but he probably hasn't played long enough to be that high, but probably top 10 ish.

Hmm...Montana, Marino...

I don't know, can't think of a second for sure guy like Favre who I'm fairly certain of.

1. Brady
2. Rivers

Edit: Now I see where you went with that. Percenatage is what I meant.

Here is a nice pictoral showing the top of the Wins list

http://www.nfl.com/photos/09000d5d8024b ... 5d8024b9d0

It would have taken me 15 guess to get #4

JeMarcus Russell and Matt Flynn

I like Nick's answer best.

I woulda picked Manning surely had I known u meant winning %.

Brees > Brady!!!!

Here's the complete list of the top 25 best selling jerseys from NFLShop.com from April 1-Oct. 31, 2010.

1. Tim Tebow, Broncos
2. Drew Brees, Saints
3. Troy Polamalu, Steelers
4. Peyton Manning, Colts
5. Brett Favre, Vikings
6. Aaron Rodgers, Packers
7. Tom Brady, Patriots
8. Miles Austin, Cowboys
9. Donovan McNabb, Redskins
10. Tony Romo, Cowboys
11. Mark Sanchez, Jets
12. Eli Manning, Giants
13. Desean Jackson, Eagles
14. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals
15. Adrian Peterson, Vikings
16. Jason Witten, Cowboys
17. Philip Rivers, Chargers
18. Chris Johnson, Titans
19. Patrick Willis, 49ers
20. Sam Bradford, Rams
21. Ray Rice, Ravens
22. Darrelle Revis, Jets
23. Chad Ochocinco, Bengals
24. Brian Urlacher, Bears

Who the fuck would wear a Eli Manning jersey? Seriously.

nick wrote:Who the fuck would wear a Eli Manning jersey? Seriously.

Exactly. In fact, all I see are Uminyora or Strahan jerseys. Guess everyone already has those so they are buying Eli jerseys.

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

TheRealDray wrote:I think White ended up w/ like 11 or 12 catches for 138 yards and 2 tds. Ryan ended up 32/50 316 and 3tds. The last of which came on a 33 yarder to win the game w/ 20 seconds left, after the ravens took the lead 21-20 w/ 1:05 left in the game. The pain in the ass of ATL having a game on a Thur after a Sunday game should pay off I would guess now that they won the game.

He pushed off

michael irvin says, "so what?"

roddy's quote after the game: White said, smiling: “He tried to grab me so I pushed him down. You gotta do what you gotta do to win. Whatever it takes.”

no penalty because he kept his arms from getting extended.

UFL game was on at the bar tonight.... Culppepper, Garcia, CLARETT all in the same game, Denny Green coaching

god damn, why does stafford have to be made of glass. the lions blow dick without him. incompletion on 1st down, 2 yard run on 2nd, 5 yard completion on 3rd, punt on 4th. repeat... this is the bills for christ sake

why does every game that idiot commentator does, its exciting? lol. 24-24 missed fgs in this jax-hou game and fuckin a fumble with 9 seconds left and hes yelling.

I got MJD and Foster and Scobee (die) so hopefully they run back and forth throughout the OT so i get more points

OMG WHAT A FUCKING ENDING...WOW..AND THE RETARD IS GOING OFF

nick wrote:OMG WHAT A FUCKING ENDING...WOW..AND THE RETARD IS GOING OFF

I just saw the ending on FOX to the Jac/Hou game, I bet that was great listening to him after that play. A midfield hail mary that gets batted down into the JAC wr hands to win.