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Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:33 pm
by shel311
Hammerin' Hank wrote:You changed the rule from 19 months ago, the rule was "one free move"
So your move wasn't free?



Pretty sure the move is free as in no relocation fees, but all moves get the market size and loyalty adjustments, as I understand it.



Did your move get the market size and loyalty adjustments?

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:35 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
shel311 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:You changed the rule from 19 months ago, the rule was "one free move"
So your move wasn't free?

Pretty sure the move is free as in no relocation fees, but all moves get the market size and loyalty adjustments, as I understand it.



Did your move get the market size and loyalty adjustments?
i was told by Corey, that you get one free move and market size and loyalty wouldn't change. I would have been stupid to move if I lost all that, and its clear because nothing was reset.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:37 pm
by wdoupis
Sorry Hank, we don’t have trust funds in the NDL. You joined around the same time as Qaz. Why don’t you PM him and ask how to build a good team and boost those ratings on your own, it’s kinda fun.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:39 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
wdoupis wrote:Sorry Hank, we don’t have trust funds in the NDL. You joined around the same time as Qaz. Why don’t you PM him and ask how to build a good team and boost those ratings on your own, it’s kinda fun.
You are a shady ass commissioner.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:43 pm
by nick
damn we like overlook the dudes dad dying (sorry to hear - thats my worst fear ever. my condolences), and now we got this.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:44 pm
by nick
Bill the Butcher sabotaging his division rivals.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:47 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
nick wrote:Bill the Butcher sabotaging his division rivals.
Despite his best efforts, still gets his ass kicked by this "mediocre" owner every single year in the playoffs.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:47 pm
by shel311
Hammerin' Hank wrote:i was told by Corey, that you get one free move and market size and loyalty wouldn't change.
I obviously wasn't there for the conversation so I can't speak on it specifically, but I'm confident that we have never done this, at least not intentionally it seems lol.


If you moved with no market size/loyalty reset, whether it was intentional or not, I do believe that you were probably the first and only to do so.


No right/wrong or taking sides, just pointing it out.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:48 pm
by esylvester6
nick wrote:damn we like overlook the dudes dad dying (sorry to hear - thats my worst fear ever. my condolences), and now we got this.
Honestly, I'm not offended haha. I'm a dude that was around sporadically, not super popular around these parts given my trade, and it's not like you know me/him personally or anything. No offense taken. Also I had a sort of complicated relationship with him, so it's just been more piling on to my workload than grief at the moment.

Ironically I've got a second to breathe right now and I opened OOTP just to do some tending to my minors before I forgot I'm not an owner anymore haha. Guess I'll start an offline file or something.

Thanks for reaching out to those that said something, by the way. And seriously, no sweat to those that didn't. It's off-topic and all; just wanted to explain why I messed up my DFAs and why I was told I wasn't going to be part of the league anymore.

Not trying to throw Billy under the bus or anything; just wanted to save a little face. I get it. Should have let him know what was going on, but it didn't even really cross my mind.

Hopefully I'll get to keep my NDL forum account so I can follow your guys' drama. It's kind of a welcome distraction right now.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:51 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
shel311 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:i was told by Corey, that you get one free move and market size and loyalty wouldn't change.
I obviously wasn't there for the conversation so I can't speak on it specifically, but I'm confident that we have never done this, at least not intentionally it seems lol.


If you moved with no market size/loyalty reset, whether it was intentional or not, I do believe that you were probably the first and only to do so.


No right/wrong or taking sides, just pointing it out.
Even so, we go back 19 months to correct something?? But I know what I was told and the evidence supports me since Corey never touch my market size or loyalty,

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:53 pm
by nick
time to settle this .. everyone get their N64 controller and lets meet up, time to play a game of WCW v NWO revenge.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:54 pm
by shel311
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Even so, we go back 19 months to correct something??
Didn't Billy catch it during his very 1st commish season and he's been adjusting it since?


I'm trying to understand why this became a huge issue today as I thought it's been happening ever since he took over?

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:58 pm
by esylvester6
Update: Thanks to Billy for letting me finish out the season.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:58 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
shel311 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Even so, we go back 19 months to correct something??
Didn't Billy catch it during his very 1st commish season and he's been adjusting it since?


I'm trying to understand why this became a huge issue today as I thought it's been happening ever since he took over?
Because he first told me all new owners had their team reset, I just found out that's not true, then he said that its because I relocated. He is changing his reasoning by the minute.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:00 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
Now he is sending me slacks calling me a "moron" and that i am "fucking stupid"

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:06 pm
by esylvester6
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Now he is sending me slacks calling me a "moron" and that i am "fucking stupid"
It sounds like you traded away a couple of good players.

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:08 pm
by shel311
esylvester6 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Now he is sending me slacks calling me a "moron" and that i am "fucking stupid"
It sounds like you traded away a couple of good players.
A+

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:27 pm
by GeorgesGoons
Hammerin' Hank wrote:
shel311 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Even so, we go back 19 months to correct something??
Didn't Billy catch it during his very 1st commish season and he's been adjusting it since?


I'm trying to understand why this became a huge issue today as I thought it's been happening ever since he took over?
Because he first told me all new owners had their team reset, I just found out that's not true, then he said that its because I relocated. He is changing his reasoning by the minute.
When you take over a team your loyalty, fan interest etc, are reset. Has nothing to do with your free move. It used to cost us a fee to relocate.

You taking over for an owner doesn't entitle you to keep 100 actoss all 3 sections, it wouldn't be fair yo other new owners who take over, say the Beef who have been mediocre for 30+ seasons. As Billy said, we don't have trust fund babies in the league. So the reset is 100 correct

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:32 pm
by esylvester6
shel311 wrote:
esylvester6 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Now he is sending me slacks calling me a "moron" and that i am "fucking stupid"
It sounds like you traded away a couple of good players.
A+
I did it! #immersion

Re: 2058 Season Thread...Qazhby titles 1, Hoffman and Grady

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:33 pm
by Hammerin' Hank
esylvester6 wrote:
Hammerin' Hank wrote:Now he is sending me slacks calling me a "moron" and that i am "fucking stupid"
It sounds like you traded away a couple of good players.
Yea, not a terribly nice guy.