Evolution of the NDL
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Evolution of the NDL
Hello fellow NDLers,
The time has come. Our league has relied on these very forums since it's inception in 2010 (I think lol) and they have been great at what they do. I (and quite a few others) feel it's time for the league to take the next step.
Going forward, starting when we move to OOTP 23 in the offseason our league will be moving to Discord!
I know this will be an extremely unpopular decision for a few of you and I can understand and appreciate that. Change sucks usually, but I feel this is going to be an overall positive step for the league. Of course there will be bumps in the road, that is a given.
If you want to continue to use the forums for off topic or random items non-league related feel free and it will still be available. This is strictly OOTP related and all league functions and communications and Slack will be decommissioned. I'm told by Niddler that when NCAA football comes back next year it will be on the forums if that's something you're looking forward to.
If you've never used Discord before it is essentially like Slack on steroids. Here are some pros and cons of Discord just for transparency:
Cons
- Completely new tech to some people.
- When private messaging others it shows your general Discord username and not your username from the NDL Discord. While annoying it does show the name you might know them as in an AKA section. It's a minor annoyance but one we'll get over easily.
- Have to pay to change your avatar on different servers but we don't really enforce logos right now anyway.
Pros
- Much more management capabilities for me. Roles/Channels/Categories. It will be a much cleaner experience once you're used to it.
- Different roles for each division and a fancy champion role. You can literally ping a division and call them trash. Should make for fun times.
- Much MUCH easier searchability than the forums.
- On that note, never ever lose messages. We'll be able to go back troll people who said their team would be good and are garbage. We'll be able to go back and look at old draft picks and lament why we should have taken X guy etc.
- And a really huge one, free and multiple voice channels. We can go back to the days where during playoffs we can all get in a channel and shoot the shit while our team gets swept by Bowie. Hell, you can even use voice chat for trade talks. Imagine how fast it could be!
I'm sure there are more things in both categories I'm forgetting but the pros outweigh the cons easily in mine and others minds.
If this decision upsets you enough that you don't feel you can continue in the league please let me know ASAP. I do ask that you give it a fair shot and try it out first. We have guys in reserve waiting for teams.
Overall, I think this will increase immersion, activity, and recruitability. I cannot tell you how many guys passed because we still used forums. Not a knock on the forums, just the truth.
If you need help setting up, Corey, Niddler, or myself will be more than happy to help. I don't think the setup will be much different than Slack though - you'll require an email.
Come join the fresh waters and test things out! There's a suggestions channel for you to give me ideas on how to improve the Discord too!
Discord link - https://discord.gg/9BY9FDnTnd
The time has come. Our league has relied on these very forums since it's inception in 2010 (I think lol) and they have been great at what they do. I (and quite a few others) feel it's time for the league to take the next step.
Going forward, starting when we move to OOTP 23 in the offseason our league will be moving to Discord!
I know this will be an extremely unpopular decision for a few of you and I can understand and appreciate that. Change sucks usually, but I feel this is going to be an overall positive step for the league. Of course there will be bumps in the road, that is a given.
If you want to continue to use the forums for off topic or random items non-league related feel free and it will still be available. This is strictly OOTP related and all league functions and communications and Slack will be decommissioned. I'm told by Niddler that when NCAA football comes back next year it will be on the forums if that's something you're looking forward to.
If you've never used Discord before it is essentially like Slack on steroids. Here are some pros and cons of Discord just for transparency:
Cons
- Completely new tech to some people.
- When private messaging others it shows your general Discord username and not your username from the NDL Discord. While annoying it does show the name you might know them as in an AKA section. It's a minor annoyance but one we'll get over easily.
- Have to pay to change your avatar on different servers but we don't really enforce logos right now anyway.
Pros
- Much more management capabilities for me. Roles/Channels/Categories. It will be a much cleaner experience once you're used to it.
- Different roles for each division and a fancy champion role. You can literally ping a division and call them trash. Should make for fun times.
- Much MUCH easier searchability than the forums.
- On that note, never ever lose messages. We'll be able to go back troll people who said their team would be good and are garbage. We'll be able to go back and look at old draft picks and lament why we should have taken X guy etc.
- And a really huge one, free and multiple voice channels. We can go back to the days where during playoffs we can all get in a channel and shoot the shit while our team gets swept by Bowie. Hell, you can even use voice chat for trade talks. Imagine how fast it could be!
I'm sure there are more things in both categories I'm forgetting but the pros outweigh the cons easily in mine and others minds.
If this decision upsets you enough that you don't feel you can continue in the league please let me know ASAP. I do ask that you give it a fair shot and try it out first. We have guys in reserve waiting for teams.
Overall, I think this will increase immersion, activity, and recruitability. I cannot tell you how many guys passed because we still used forums. Not a knock on the forums, just the truth.
If you need help setting up, Corey, Niddler, or myself will be more than happy to help. I don't think the setup will be much different than Slack though - you'll require an email.
Come join the fresh waters and test things out! There's a suggestions channel for you to give me ideas on how to improve the Discord too!
Discord link - https://discord.gg/9BY9FDnTnd
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Ooh. I like Discord. That I can actually get behind.
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Sorry I don't use Discord. Will export when you need.
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It will be a requirement to be in the Discord. If that's an issue let me know.
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Yeah, there is no way you cannot use Discord to be in the league.
You will have to be able to communicate.
You will have to be able to communicate.
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What's Discord?
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It was a good run fellas!
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It was a helluva run!
I am hoping that NCAA coming back next year, we can revive the forums for NCAA football. Holmey is getting things ready, so we will see.
I am hoping that NCAA coming back next year, we can revive the forums for NCAA football. Holmey is getting things ready, so we will see.
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- Cnasty
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See y’all on Discord!
Necessary move to keep vacancies filled and the league going.
Also the other areas are still around on the forums and aren’t going anywhere.
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Discord is much better than a traditional forum.
Mobile integration better. Active linking/embedding of information better.
Assume we'll have a few channels for different things, all of which will be simple and also better.
Thumbs up!
Mobile integration better. Active linking/embedding of information better.
Assume we'll have a few channels for different things, all of which will be simple and also better.
Thumbs up!
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I have a catalog of cancellable comments on this site so moving to anywhere but here is great for me.
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We have a reserve list, exports at an all time high I keep hearing
So what's the beef for this change?
So what's the beef for this change?
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We have a reserve list because of Niddler and mentioning we are going to Discord. I don't have data but I don't feel exports are at an all time high...
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Billy? Now that you aren't deployed you can go back to it....or teach me
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So this is all just reluctance to use Discord? You all still rocking VHS at home too?
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Discord is great. You also 100% will not fill a 120 person league in 2022/2023 with a forum so the NDL heads should be focusing on a server for when the game drops.