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After 2-3 seasons where i badly neglected my draft class, it's starting to show in the pros. I dont understand how some people dont spend more time researching and drafting.. Probably most important thing in this game.
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nick wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:13 pm After 2-3 seasons where i badly neglected my draft class, it's starting to show in the pros. I dont understand how some people dont spend more time researching and drafting.. Probably most important thing in this game.
i agree with this, but i also don't put the time i need to into it.
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WF continuing to muck up draft position. Now best non-playoff team in the AL with a 21-4 September record.
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SS Walton Burgess absolutely smashing the fielding ZR record with a ZR of +36.3
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Cnasty wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:01 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:22 pm
Cnasty wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:19 pm I feel like Juan Jose Valentin and Andy Wilkins will be trying to one up each other for the best SS in the league title for the next 5-10 years.

Rich Booth in the backseat looking to have his name mentioned as well.

All 25ish years old too.
Booth will surpass them both as the better all around player. Valentin is the better fielder though.
Quite the statement. He has proven to be the “worst” of the 3 thus far.

Catch up Booth
Not this year he isn't the "worst" of the 3.

just pulled up SS only and looked at the leaderboard. Damn, they are all pretty much interchangeable. I'd still take Booth just cuz he is damn near a whole year younger than the other two. :D This was Booth's breakout year to introduce himself to everyone. Get used to these numbers he's putting up
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Big differentiator I see.

Booth and JJV are locked up long term.

Wilkins may never see a contract from Prosper at this rate.
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Burgess better
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Fun advanced SS defensive stats.

Play type with the % of time they should be successful:

Ro = routine plays (90-100%)
L = likely plays (60-90%)
E = Even plays (40-60%)
U = Unlikely plays (10-40%)
Re = remote plays (1-10%)

Players with number of plays available and their success rates.

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	        Ro      L       E       U       Re
Burgess	        300	49	43	28	27
	        308	62	71	69	77
	        97%	79%	61%	41%	35%
Wilkins	        269	33	25	20	10
	        289	64	74	59	72
	        93%	52%	34%	34%	14%
Booth	        287	32	25	15	11
	        311	74	55	63	58
	        92%	43%	45%	24%	19%
Valentin	305	41	48	30	24
	        317	65	87	84	65
	        96%	63%	55%	36%	37%
So Burgess stomps on Wilkins and Booth but Valentin is a close match.

I think Valentin is easily the best SS in the league, and WAR agrees. Other than CF, where Spann dominates (what the hell was up with his trade from Omaha to Alabama??), Valentin has the most separation between the second best player at a position.
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dakshdar wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:35 pm Fun advanced SS defensive stats.

Play type with the % of time they should be successful:

Ro = routine plays (90-100%)
L = likely plays (60-90%)
E = Even plays (40-60%)
U = Unlikely plays (10-40%)
Re = remote plays (1-10%)

Players with number of plays available and their success rates.

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	        Ro      L       E       U       Re
Burgess	        300	49	43	28	27
	        308	62	71	69	77
	        97%	79%	61%	41%	35%
Wilkins	        269	33	25	20	10
	        289	64	74	59	72
	        93%	52%	34%	34%	14%
Booth	        287	32	25	15	11
	        311	74	55	63	58
	        92%	43%	45%	24%	19%
Valentin	305	41	48	30	24
	        317	65	87	84	65
	        96%	63%	55%	36%	37%
So Burgess stomps on Wilkins and Booth but Valentin is a close match.

I think Valentin is easily the best SS in the league, and WAR agrees. Other than CF, where Spann dominates (what the hell was up with his trade from Omaha to Alabama??), Valentin has the most separation between the second best player at a position.
This is awesome ty! Valentin also has wheels to add to his WAR total and he's a good hitter (120 wrC+ I think). Seeing his WAR that high still feels weird though. I remember I almost traded him to Blanco. Can you imagine......

Also Spann is straight up legit. SMH George....
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Defense?!

We talkin about defense?????

Zzzzzzzzzzz
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Cnasty wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:13 pm Prosper hits the road for the final 12 games of the season.

Screw the scheduling gods on that one, sheesh.

Slim chance we come back from 1.5GB and we have had an ugly last month of the season.
The window of this uber talented team is very slowly closing if we dont win shit soon and a sell off may be imminent.
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I traded Spann to get a pitcher and get rid of a horrible contract. With Krieger it wasn't that much of a hit for me. It enabled me to sign long term contracts for Krieger, Fernandez and Wilkins. And I had enough money to sign Booth to a long term contract as well. If we can win it this year the trade was worth it, should have won last year but OOTP will OOTP you come playoffs
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TheGobOne wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:53 pm
Cnasty wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:13 pm Prosper hits the road for the final 12 games of the season.

Screw the scheduling gods on that one, sheesh.

Slim chance we come back from 1.5GB and we have had an ugly last month of the season.
The window of this uber talented team is very slowly closing if we dont win shit soon and a sell off may be imminent.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:01 am I traded Spann to get a pitcher and get rid of a horrible contract. With Krieger it wasn't that much of a hit for me. It enabled me to sign long term contracts for Krieger, Fernandez and Wilkins. And I had enough money to sign Booth to a long term contract as well. If we can win it this year the trade was worth it, should have won last year but OOTP will OOTP you come playoffs
Keep making those great trades and spending that money like a liberal!
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dakshdar wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:35 pm Fun advanced SS defensive stats.

Play type with the % of time they should be successful:

Ro = routine plays (90-100%)
L = likely plays (60-90%)
E = Even plays (40-60%)
U = Unlikely plays (10-40%)
Re = remote plays (1-10%)

Players with number of plays available and their success rates.

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	        Ro      L       E       U       Re
Burgess	        300	49	43	28	27
	        308	62	71	69	77
	        97%	79%	61%	41%	35%
Wilkins	        269	33	25	20	10
	        289	64	74	59	72
	        93%	52%	34%	34%	14%
Booth	        287	32	25	15	11
	        311	74	55	63	58
	        92%	43%	45%	24%	19%
Valentin	305	41	48	30	24
	        317	65	87	84	65
	        96%	63%	55%	36%	37%
So Burgess stomps on Wilkins and Booth but Valentin is a close match.

I think Valentin is easily the best SS in the league, and WAR agrees. Other than CF, where Spann dominates (what the hell was up with his trade from Omaha to Alabama??), Valentin has the most separation between the second best player at a position.
I was interested in look at the total balls the fielder was able to reach as well,

Burgess- 3.29 TB's per 9 inning
Valentine- 3.07 TB's per 9

So about 6.7% difference there

I think the biggest difference though is the remote plays

Burgess was able to get to 4 more balls while playing 100 less innings for

Valentin- .164 remote plays made per 9 innings
Burgess- .199 replote plays made per 9 innings

So he got to about 21% more remote plays per 9 innings that Valentine

That said Valentine is much superior offensively to more than make up for the slight defensive advantage.

It is crazy though, Burgess is probably the greatest ever defensive player we've ever seen, my scout has him at 108 infield range which is ridiculous
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Defensive and steals inflated WAR numbers.

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Burgess would make a great UI, we don't mind sacrificing defense for offense.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 am Burgess would make a great UI, we don't mind sacrificing defense for offense.
Chicks dig the offense.
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Cnasty wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:30 am
GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 am Burgess would make a great UI, we don't mind sacrificing defense for offense.
Chicks dig the offense.
Hoping the Eagles left their offense in the dugout in our series this sim.
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We will be limping into the wildcard spot and hope we can pull some Moose Jaw magic out of our ass.
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